Neill Wormwood:
As a matter of interest, was there any work done at Bethnal Green

Nick Cooper:
Abandoned due to persistent flooding.

Not mentioned in RTTC. Did they really start a further tunnel there?

or Oval? As I recall there might have been some done at Oval, but it
was abandoned due to water ingress.

Abandoned due to persistent flooding from unexepected water-bearing
stratum (i.e. not the buried River Effra, as per some accounts).

RTTC says "officially because water was encountered during tunnelling,
but the drawing was marked 'abandoned - shortage of labour'".
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 21:46:55 -0000, (Mark Brader) wrote:

Neill Wormwood:
As a matter of interest, was there any work done at Bethnal Green

Nick Cooper:
Abandoned due to persistent flooding.

Not mentioned in RTTC. Did they really start a further tunnel there?

Midway between BG and Liverpool Street, although it's acquired the
former name, presumably because it was either closer to that station,
or to differentiate it from the tunnels already in use as shelters at
Liverpool Street.

or Oval? As I recall there might have been some done at Oval, but it
was abandoned due to water ingress.

Abandoned due to persistent flooding from unexepected water-bearing
stratum (i.e. not the buried River Effra, as per some accounts).

RTTC says "officially because water was encountered during tunnelling,
but the drawing was marked 'abandoned - shortage of labour'".

'London's Secret Tubes' (Emmerson & Beard, 2004) attributes it to
flooding and quotes extensively from official reports at the time
detailing the problems encountered, and the measures that would need
to be taken to complete the shelter as planned. The only mention of
labour is in the context of the manpower being diverted to Camden
Town, where completion was of a higher priority.
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"Nick Cooper" wrote in
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Midway between BG and Liverpool Street, although it's acquired the
former name, presumably because it was either closer to that station,
or to differentiate it from the tunnels already in use as shelters at
Liverpool Street.

Do you have any further info on this? I know about the Bishopsgate shaft,
the "mysterious" floodgates at Bishopsgate, and the complex of tunnels at
Hollybush Gardens, just west of Bethnal Green, but I've never heard of
anything else on this section.

There was (and is) an intermediate shaft at Carlton Square, mid-way between
Bethnal Green and Mile End, that was associated with a war-time shelter.


'London's Secret Tubes' (Emmerson & Beard, 2004) attributes it to
flooding and quotes extensively from official reports at the time
detailing the problems encountered, and the measures that would need
to be taken to complete the shelter as planned. The only mention of
labour is in the context of the manpower being diverted to Camden
Town, where completion was of a higher priority.

I believe the brick building on the corner of Kennington Park Road/Brixton
Road/Camberwell New Road is a relic of the aborted Oval shelter.

what is RTTC?

lonelytraveller typed:
what is RTTC?

The book "Rails Through The Clay", already mentioned in this thread.
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