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Chris June 4th 05 02:48 PM

Faded Record Card
 
Apparenlty an Oystercard with 6month season accompanied by a photocard
and a faded record card is NOT valid on overground trains and according
to the RPI I was lucky I didn't get a PF. How does one go about
getting a new record card? Tube stations say they can't re-print it
and the oystercard helpline reckons I have to report the oyster lost
(and be without season ticket for a while) to get a new record card.
If I was PF'd would I be able to claim it back (since I do carry my
season ticket with me on my Oyster Card and it is valid)


Peter Smyth June 4th 05 03:19 PM

Faded Record Card
 

"Chris" wrote in message
ups.com...
Apparenlty an Oystercard with 6month season accompanied by a photocard
and a faded record card is NOT valid on overground trains and according
to the RPI I was lucky I didn't get a PF. How does one go about
getting a new record card? Tube stations say they can't re-print it
and the oystercard helpline reckons I have to report the oyster lost
(and be without season ticket for a while) to get a new record card.
If I was PF'd would I be able to claim it back (since I do carry my
season ticket with me on my Oyster Card and it is valid)


The RPI didn't know what he was talking about. Oyster Card seasons are valid
on overground trains and you don't need a record card at all, or a photocard
either.

Peter Smyth



TKD June 4th 05 07:29 PM

Faded Record Card
 

"Chris" wrote in message
ups.com...
Apparenlty an Oystercard with 6month season accompanied by a photocard
and a faded record card is NOT valid on overground trains and according
to the RPI I was lucky I didn't get a PF. How does one go about
getting a new record card? Tube stations say they can't re-print it
and the oystercard helpline reckons I have to report the oyster lost
(and be without season ticket for a while) to get a new record card.
If I was PF'd would I be able to claim it back (since I do carry my
season ticket with me on my Oyster Card and it is valid)


Someone I know experienced this on Silverlink a few times when the
guard didn't know how to use his hand held scanner properly and claimed there
was no valid ticket. He printed the list of current tickets from his account details on
www.oystercard.com and showed that to him the next time to shut him up.



Chris! June 5th 05 08:42 PM

Faded Record Card
 


Chris wrote:
Apparenlty an Oystercard with 6month season accompanied by a photocard
and a faded record card is NOT valid on overground trains and according
to the RPI I was lucky I didn't get a PF. How does one go about
getting a new record card? Tube stations say they can't re-print it
and the oystercard helpline reckons I have to report the oyster lost
(and be without season ticket for a while) to get a new record card.
If I was PF'd would I be able to claim it back (since I do carry my
season ticket with me on my Oyster Card and it is valid)


I got it replaced this evening at East Putney.

The knob in the station didn't transfer my prepay over, didn't transfer
my discount entitlement over and put the wrong expiry date (today
instead of 29 JUN).

I'm fuming!!


Chris! June 5th 05 09:51 PM

Faded Record Card
 


Chris! wrote:
Chris wrote:
Apparenlty an Oystercard with 6month season accompanied by a photocard
and a faded record card is NOT valid on overground trains and according
to the RPI I was lucky I didn't get a PF. How does one go about
getting a new record card? Tube stations say they can't re-print it
and the oystercard helpline reckons I have to report the oyster lost
(and be without season ticket for a while) to get a new record card.
If I was PF'd would I be able to claim it back (since I do carry my
season ticket with me on my Oyster Card and it is valid)


I got it replaced this evening at East Putney.

The knob in the station didn't transfer my prepay over, didn't transfer
my discount entitlement over and put the wrong expiry date (today
instead of 29 JUN).

I'm fuming!!


Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early)... took 70 minutes to
get it corrected - but at least that's better than queueing tomorrow in
the am peak


Colin Rosenstiel June 5th 05 10:41 PM

Faded Record Card
 
In article . com,
(Chris!) wrote:

Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early).


Sounds standard practice there. I'm glad I can't use Oyster (because I
travel from Cambridge) with all the hassle.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Francis Davey June 6th 05 08:13 PM

Faded Record Card
 
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article . com,
(Chris!) wrote:


Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early).



Sounds standard practice there. I'm glad I can't use Oyster (because I
travel from Cambridge) with all the hassle.


I've never had any hassle with Oyster. Some of my Cambridge friends
actually have Oysters for when they want to get around the capital
quickly. I guess you have a gold card or something (as I did when
commuting) so London travel is an irrelevance to you.

Francis

PS: I thought you were a Cambridge City Councillor, but I am obviously
out of touch

David Cantrell June 6th 05 08:22 PM

Faded Record Card
 
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:41 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) said:
In article . com,
(Chris!) wrote:
Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early).

Sounds standard practice there. I'm glad I can't use Oyster (because I
travel from Cambridge) with all the hassle.


I just don't see what benefit Oyster would have for me, and I live in
London!

--
David Cantrell |
http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

James Farrar June 6th 05 10:49 PM

Faded Record Card
 
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:22:51 +0100, David Cantrell
wrote:

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:41 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) said:
In article . com,
(Chris!) wrote:
Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early).

Sounds standard practice there. I'm glad I can't use Oyster (because I
travel from Cambridge) with all the hassle.


I just don't see what benefit Oyster would have for me, and I live in
London!


It's noticeably quicker and easier to get through ticket gates.

I do most of my commuting on NR, and I use Oyster by choice, just for
the convenience of not needing two hands free to take a paper ticket
out of the wallet at the barrier.


Chris! June 6th 05 11:02 PM

Faded Record Card
 


David Cantrell wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:41 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) said:
In article . com,
(Chris!) wrote:
Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early).

Sounds standard practice there. I'm glad I can't use Oyster (because I
travel from Cambridge) with all the hassle.


I just don't see what benefit Oyster would have for me, and I live in
London!



Despite the problem in my OP I do like Oyster. I could have had the
same problems with paper tickets. Oyster is easier to get through the
gates (and easy to go a few stops extra out of my travelcard without
queueing up for an extension ticket). Also, every so often, I can get
a several page printout of all the journeys I have made (although the
last statement 'got lost in the post' around about the same time a
royal mail van was nicked in Putney)


asdf June 6th 05 11:30 PM

Faded Record Card
 
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:22:51 +0100, David Cantrell
wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:41 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) said:
In article . com,
(Chris!) wrote:
Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early).

Sounds standard practice there. I'm glad I can't use Oyster (because I
travel from Cambridge) with all the hassle.


I just don't see what benefit Oyster would have for me, and I live in
London!


Single fares are cheaper, particularly on buses. You spend less time
queueing for tickets and ticket extensions. And you never pay more
than the price of a Travelcard for a day's travel (on tube/bus/DLR),
even if you don't know at the start of the day whether you'll make
enough journeys to justify getting a Travelcard.

However, if you have a Travelcard season, and never go outside your
zones, the advantages appear to be more limited: potential additional
ease of getting through ticket gates, and the ability to renew your
season online.

Colin Rosenstiel June 6th 05 11:55 PM

Faded Record Card
 
In article ,
(Francis Davey) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article . com,
(Chris!) wrote:

Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early).


Sounds standard practice there. I'm glad I can't use Oyster (because
I travel from Cambridge) with all the hassle.


I've never had any hassle with Oyster. Some of my Cambridge friends
actually have Oysters for when they want to get around the capital
quickly. I guess you have a gold card or something (as I did when
commuting) so London travel is an irrelevance to you.


My comment was actually about the lack of staffing of the East Putney
ticket office but then it was open at 10 tonight, shock horror!

PS: I thought you were a Cambridge City Councillor, but I am obviously
out of touch


I am! But I only work in London three days most weeks. Tonight and
tomorrow I'm staying in Putney which could be the only use I'd have for an
Oyster all year. I use a Network Card and day returns, one day Travelcards
and saver returns, plus the odd tube single, on different trips.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Chris! June 7th 05 01:39 AM

Faded Record Card
 


asdf wrote:
snip
However, if you have a Travelcard season, and never go outside your
zones, the advantages appear to be more limited: potential additional
ease of getting through ticket gates, and the ability to renew your
season online.


Except if it is a 'discount' (i.e. Student) travelcard - then you have
to go to the ticket office to get it renewed


Mizter T June 7th 05 08:16 AM

Faded Record Card
 
David Cantrell wrote:
I just don't see what benefit Oyster would have for me, and I live in
London!


asdf wrote:
Single fares are cheaper, particularly on buses. You spend less time
queueing for tickets and ticket extensions. And you never pay more
than the price of a Travelcard for a day's travel (on tube/bus/DLR),
even if you don't know at the start of the day whether you'll make
enough journeys to justify getting a Travelcard.

However, if you have a Travelcard season, and never go outside your
zones, the advantages appear to be more limited: potential additional
ease of getting through ticket gates, and the ability to renew your
season online.


I second what asdf has said - if you're using the tube and/or buses and
buying single fares, even on an occasional basis, then Oyster Pre-Pay
can save you dosh. A couple of examples - with Oyster Pre-Pay, it's an
80p off-peak fare on the bus as opposed to £1.20. Also, at weekends
and after 7pm, a Zone 1 - 6 single Tube ticket will cost you £3.80,
but only £2 with Oyster.

Also, as asdf has said, the price capping means you don't pay more that
a Day Travelcard even if you don't plan ahead. Though as the Oyster
Pre-Pay system is still not accepted on most National Rail (NR) routes
in the capital, this can mean that you effectively pay for a Day
Travelcard yet you don't get the full functionality of one - though
AIUI, eventually NR will participate fully in the Oyster Pre-Pay
scheme.

If you have a Travelcard season and do go outside the zones covered on
the Tube, then you'll never have to queue to buy an extension (or
forget to buy one & get hit with a £10 penalty fare, as a scatty
friend of mine always seemed to manage to do) as the Oyster system will
automatically debit the extension fare from you Oyster Pre-Pay balance.

And it's just conveniant having this bit of plastic that you've
pre-loaded with money rather than having to fumble for change and buy
tickets the whole time.


Chris! June 16th 05 10:15 PM

Faded Record Card
 
snip story about man at station 'losing' my prepay and reducing my
season ticket...
Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early)... took 70 minutes to
get it corrected - but at least that's better than queueing tomorrow in
the am peak


In case anyone is interested, the tube people said: "We do not offer
compensation for human error". If that is a blanket statement it seems
rather worrying that they accept no responsibility for any mistakes
their staff may make


Rupert Candy June 17th 05 08:29 AM

Faded Record Card
 


Chris! wrote:
snip story about man at station 'losing' my prepay and reducing my
season ticket...
Sorted @ Fulham Bdwy (East Putney closed early)... took 70 minutes to
get it corrected - but at least that's better than queueing tomorrow in
the am peak


In case anyone is interested, the tube people said: "We do not offer
compensation for human error". If that is a blanket statement it seems
rather worrying that they accept no responsibility for any mistakes
their staff may make


Perhaps someone should mention the Unfair Contract Terms Act to them...



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