Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

This weekend the Met line will be closed between Wembley Park and
Aldgate. This is despite that stretch of line closing almost every
weekend from September 2004 to may 2005 for the Wembley rebuild.

During that time Chiltern railways put on extra trains to cope with the
mass of people trying to get to/from London, but as Marylebone is now
closed most weekends in June/July there will be no direct link into
London from Amersham southwards.

Couple of questions:

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during the
past 30 odd weekends?

Who is responsible for co-ordinating work between network rail and
Metronet to try and ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen?

Dave
--
Dave B

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

It probably would have been possible to do the work during the wobble
park shutdowns, but I think I'm correct in saying that the District line
was shutdown over the same weekends, Metrocrap probably only have enough
staff for 1 weekend shutdown at a time (although someone will probably
correct me on this)

As for coordination of these works, that is a very good idea, I'll
suggest it.

daveb wrote:

This weekend the Met line will be closed between Wembley Park and
Aldgate. This is despite that stretch of line closing almost every
weekend from September 2004 to may 2005 for the Wembley rebuild.

During that time Chiltern railways put on extra trains to cope with the
mass of people trying to get to/from London, but as Marylebone is now
closed most weekends in June/July there will be no direct link into
London from Amersham southwards.

Couple of questions:

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during the
past 30 odd weekends?

Who is responsible for co-ordinating work between network rail and
Metronet to try and ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen?

Dave

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:04:16 GMT, General Von Clinkerhoffen
wrote:

It probably would have been possible to do the work during the wobble
park shutdowns, but I think I'm correct in saying that the District line
was shutdown over the same weekends,

Not really... the Met closures were every weekend. The District/Circle
ones were only on some weekends.

Metrocrap probably only have enough
staff for 1 weekend shutdown at a time (although someone will probably
correct me on this)

As for coordination of these works, that is a very good idea, I'll
suggest it.

daveb wrote:

This weekend the Met line will be closed between Wembley Park and
Aldgate. This is despite that stretch of line closing almost every
weekend from September 2004 to may 2005 for the Wembley rebuild.

During that time Chiltern railways put on extra trains to cope with the
mass of people trying to get to/from London, but as Marylebone is now
closed most weekends in June/July there will be no direct link into
London from Amersham southwards.

Couple of questions:

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during the
past 30 odd weekends?

Who is responsible for co-ordinating work between network rail and
Metronet to try and ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen?

No one, evidently.

It seems an inevitable consequence of privatisation and PPP, that if
there aren't financial penalties for it then they don't care about it.
The passengers, sorry "customers", just don't seem to get taken into
consideration.

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

daveb wrote:
This weekend the Met line will be closed between Wembley Park and
Aldgate. This is despite that stretch of line closing almost every
weekend from September 2004 to may 2005 for the Wembley rebuild.

During that time Chiltern railways put on extra trains to cope
with the mass of people trying to get to/from London, but as
Marylebone is now closed most weekends in June/July there will
be no direct link into London from Amersham southwards.

What about the Jubilee Line?


Couple of questions:

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during
the past 30 odd weekends?

What are they actually doing?

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
ups.com...
daveb wrote:

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during
the past 30 odd weekends?

What are they actually doing?

Since when did Metronet know what they were doing, anyway?

NR/Chiltern, OTOH, are busy with full commissioning of Wembley depot,
decommissioning and removal of the stabling sidings on the north-west side
of Marylebone station, commissioning of the new siding on the north-east
side of the station etc. etc. in order to add the two new platforms, along
with the associated replacement of pointwork, resignalling and so on. You
can bet that they'll have all that done and Metronet will still be faffing
about with the Met and Jubilee lines! ;-))

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

"daveb" wrote in message
...
This weekend the Met line will be closed between Wembley Park and
Aldgate. This is despite that stretch of line closing almost every
weekend from September 2004 to may 2005 for the Wembley rebuild.

It has been longer than that - there was a replacement bus service between
Harrow on the Hill and Willesden Green as long ago as June 2004. At the same
time there was no service from Harrow into Euston on the WCML because that
was closed at weekends too. Made it bloody awkward to get to Waterloo to
catch an early Eurostar !!
I'm sure that weekend closures of the Met were in force long before that.
Cheerz,
Baz

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

In message , daveb
writes

This weekend the Met line will be closed between Wembley Park and
Aldgate. This is despite that stretch of line closing almost every
weekend from September 2004 to may 2005 for the Wembley rebuild.

During that time Chiltern railways put on extra trains to cope with the
mass of people trying to get to/from London, but as Marylebone is now
closed most weekends in June/July there will be no direct link into
London from Amersham southwards.

Couple of questions:

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during the
past 30 odd weekends?

Who is responsible for co-ordinating work between network rail and
Metronet to try and ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen?

Dave
If you want a 21st century railway, that's the price, otherwise have
four wheel coaches with gas lighting and steam hauled to boot. Your
choice.
--
Clive

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

If you want a 21st century railway, that's the price

What? 30 weekend closures?

Didn't they change the entire GWR's guage over a single weekend?

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

Clive ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during the
past 30 odd weekends?

If you want a 21st century railway, that's the price

OK, we've been paying the price for months now.

Now - when do we get the 21st century railway? Do we have to have a second-
half-of-20th railway installed first, or can we go straight to the 21st?

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

In message , Clive
writes
If you want a 21st century railway, that's the price, otherwise have
four wheel coaches with gas lighting and steam hauled to boot. Your
choice.

I think it's exactly that kind of attitude within the public transport
sector that explains why a section of track, that has been closed almost
every weekend for about the last year, is once again being taken out of
service. Just out of interest, do you work for Metronet or LUL by any
chance?

Most companies who had to close a section of their business over such a
long period, would take advantage of that closure and undertake any
other planned work (for that area) at the same time.

A few weeks ago there was an TFL puff piece in the Metro about how the
Wembley work had been finished on time and the weekend service would be
back to normal by the end of May. Strangely enough It didn't mention
that it would only be back to normal for 2 weeks :-)

Dave


--
Dave B

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

On 15 Jun 2005 11:28:02 -0700, "Paul Weaver"
wrote:

If you want a 21st century railway, that's the price

What? 30 weekend closures?

Didn't they change the entire GWR's guage over a single weekend?

Not really ,only the remaining section down in the Southwest the rest
having been mixed or std gauge for some time.
And there had been a lot of forward planning and also the style
of track lent itself to a relatively easy conversion.
Probably lost in the mists of time would be the loose ends that
had to be tidied up ,odd sidings to be reconnected etc.
And I would imagine that somewhere some where else in the country
somebody was bemoaning the fact that they could not get a job
repaired, or a project built on time as the GWR had poached all the
staff for the period.

It was still a fine bit of planning and application though.
G.Harman

Met/Chiltern lines next weekend
 

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:23:22 +0100, Clive
wrote:

In message , daveb
writes

This weekend the Met line will be closed between Wembley Park and
Aldgate. This is despite that stretch of line closing almost every
weekend from September 2004 to may 2005 for the Wembley rebuild.

During that time Chiltern railways put on extra trains to cope with the
mass of people trying to get to/from London, but as Marylebone is now
closed most weekends in June/July there will be no direct link into
London from Amersham southwards.

Couple of questions:

Was it really not possible to do this work on the Met line during the
past 30 odd weekends?

Who is responsible for co-ordinating work between network rail and
Metronet to try and ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen?

Dave
If you want a 21st century railway, that's the price, otherwise have
four wheel coaches with gas lighting and steam hauled to boot. Your
choice.

So if they'd done the track replacement during the closures for the
rebuild of Wembley Park, it would only be a 20th century railway, but
this way it's a 21st?

If they postponed the track replacement until after the Chiltern line
is open again, it would be like a regression to the days of steam?

Hmmm...