Dave wrote:
NM writes

As was said Thameslink publish a timetable, thank you for the detail
about how they do it but that changes nothing, they have ample
opportunity to ensure they meet their own criteria and if they don't
'tis their fault.


It's a shame that you didn't actually bother to read and understand what
I wrote. This problem of yours is becoming a big drawback in trying to
sustain a sensible debate.

You only read what you want to read, make no attempt to learn what you
don't already know and decline to respond to questions where this would
expose your ignorance.

And you can argue black is white until the cows come home but this will
not change the simple fact that Thameslink are responsibe for keeping to
their own timetable.

NM writes
And you can argue black is white until the cows come home but this will
not change the simple fact that Thameslink are responsibe for keeping
to their own timetable.

*sigh*

It's a shame that you are so blinkered and unwilling to learn.

What can they do if the timetable foisted upon them is unworkable? Just
not bother to run any trains at all?

What can they do if the infrastructure (tracks, signalling, power
supply) is unreliable?

What can they do if another company's train makes the Thameslink train
late?

There are many reasons for trains not running to time that are totally
outside of the control of the operating company. You also appear to
have selective memory, apparently forgetting that I said "What
Thameslink have to ensure is that it maintains its trains and systems so
that the timetable is achievable." Thameslink can't be held responsible
if a Midland Main Line train breaks down and delays a Thameslink train
(or for that matter a Connex, SouthCentral, Virgin, Gatwick Express,
Thames Trains or SWT train either).

But your lack of clue fails to surprise me. Never mind, stick to the
Nijnte books eh? You might learn something.

--
Dave

Dave wrote:

NM writes

And you can argue black is white until the cows come home but this
will not change the simple fact that Thameslink are responsibe for
keeping to their own timetable.


*sigh*

It's a shame that you are so blinkered and unwilling to learn.

What can they do if the timetable foisted upon them is unworkable?
Refuse to publish an unworkable timetable.
Just
not bother to run any trains at all?
Best idea yet.

What can they do if the infrastructure (tracks, signalling, power
supply) is unreliable?
Make sure they are.

What can they do if another company's train makes the Thameslink train
late?
See that there is no recurrence.

There are many reasons for trains not running to time that are totally
outside of the control of the operating company.
Yeah, everyones fault but theirs.
You also appear to
have selective memory, apparently forgetting that I said "What
Thameslink have to ensure is that it maintains its trains and systems so
that the timetable is achievable." Thameslink can't be held responsible
if a Midland Main Line train breaks down and delays a Thameslink train
(or for that matter a Connex, SouthCentral, Virgin, Gatwick Express,
Thames Trains or SWT train either).
Why not. I, as a punter hold them responsible, my contract is with them,
if others **** them up it's up to them to take whatever redress they see
fit.

But your lack of clue fails to surprise me. Never mind, stick to the
Nijnte books eh? You might learn something.

The only thing I have learnt from you is that you are a PT apologist. PT
is pants.

"NM" wrote in message
m...

*sigh*

It's a shame that you are so blinkered and unwilling to learn.

What can they do if the timetable foisted upon them is unworkable?
Refuse to publish an unworkable timetable.
Just
not bother to run any trains at all?
Best idea yet.

What a brilliant idea. No trains must be much better than late trains.


What can they do if the infrastructure (tracks, signalling, power
supply) is unreliable?
Make sure they are.

Thameslink are not responsible for the infrastructure, Network Rail are.

What can they do if another company's train makes the Thameslink train
late?
See that there is no recurrence.

How? Creep into the other companies depots in the middle of the night and
sabotage all their trains to give the Thameslinks a clear run?

There are many reasons for trains not running to time that are totally
outside of the control of the operating company.
Yeah, everyones fault but theirs.

So what is this magic way for Thameslink to run all their trains on time? I'm
sure you could make millions if you could run a perfect 100% reliable train
service.

You also appear to
have selective memory, apparently forgetting that I said "What
Thameslink have to ensure is that it maintains its trains and systems so
that the timetable is achievable." Thameslink can't be held responsible
if a Midland Main Line train breaks down and delays a Thameslink train
(or for that matter a Connex, SouthCentral, Virgin, Gatwick Express,
Thames Trains or SWT train either).
Why not. I, as a punter hold them responsible, my contract is with them,
if others **** them up it's up to them to take whatever redress they see
fit.

Like what?

Peter Smyth

Peter Smyth wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
m...


*sigh*

It's a shame that you are so blinkered and unwilling to learn.

What can they do if the timetable foisted upon them is unworkable?

Refuse to publish an unworkable timetable.
Just

not bother to run any trains at all?

Best idea yet.


What a brilliant idea. No trains must be much better than late trains.


What can they do if the infrastructure (tracks, signalling, power
supply) is unreliable?

Make sure they are.


Thameslink are not responsible for the infrastructure, Network Rail are.


What can they do if another company's train makes the Thameslink train
late?

See that there is no recurrence.


How? Creep into the other companies depots in the middle of the night and
sabotage all their trains to give the Thameslinks a clear run?


There are many reasons for trains not running to time that are totally
outside of the control of the operating company.

Yeah, everyones fault but theirs.


So what is this magic way for Thameslink to run all their trains on time? I'm
sure you could make millions if you could run a perfect 100% reliable train
service.


You also appear to

have selective memory, apparently forgetting that I said "What
Thameslink have to ensure is that it maintains its trains and systems so
that the timetable is achievable." Thameslink can't be held responsible
if a Midland Main Line train breaks down and delays a Thameslink train
(or for that matter a Connex, SouthCentral, Virgin, Gatwick Express,
Thames Trains or SWT train either).

Why not. I, as a punter hold them responsible, my contract is with them,
if others **** them up it's up to them to take whatever redress they see
fit.


Like what?

Peter Smyth


That's for them to decide, legal action perhaps, some sort of pressure,
whatever, as a punter it's not my problem my contract is with Thameslink.

NM wrote:
Peter Smyth wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
m...


*sigh*

It's a shame that you are so blinkered and unwilling to
learn.

What can they do if the timetable foisted upon them is
unworkable?

Refuse to publish an unworkable timetable.
Just

not bother to run any trains at all?

Best idea yet.


What a brilliant idea. No trains must be much better than
late trains.


What can they do if the infrastructure (tracks,
signalling, power
supply) is unreliable?

Make sure they are.


Thameslink are not responsible for the infrastructure,
Network Rail are.


What can they do if another company's train makes the
Thameslink train late?

See that there is no recurrence.


How? Creep into the other companies depots in the middle
of the night and sabotage all their trains to give the
Thameslinks a clear run?


There are many reasons for trains not running to time
that are totally outside of the control of the operating
company.

Yeah, everyones fault but theirs.


So what is this magic way for Thameslink to run all their
trains on time? I'm sure you could make millions if you
could run a perfect 100% reliable train service.


You also appear to

have selective memory, apparently forgetting that I said
"What
Thameslink have to ensure is that it maintains its
trains and systems so that the timetable is achievable."
Thameslink can't be held responsible
if a Midland Main Line train breaks down and delays a
Thameslink train (or for that matter a Connex,
SouthCentral, Virgin, Gatwick Express,
Thames Trains or SWT train either).

Why not. I, as a punter hold them responsible, my
contract is with them,
if others **** them up it's up to them to take whatever
redress they see fit.


Like what?

Peter Smyth


That's for them to decide, legal action perhaps, some sort
of pressure, whatever, as a punter it's not my problem my
contract is with Thameslink.

What about when some dickhead road vehicle driver who can't maintain control
decides to dump his vehicle on the track in front of an approaching train,
is that the train operating companies fault?

"Peter Smyth" writes:

"NM" wrote in message
om...

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Why not. I, as a punter hold them responsible, my contract is with them,
if others **** them up it's up to them to take whatever redress they see
fit.

Like what?

Who cares? Not my problem.


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