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[email protected] August 5th 05 05:16 PM

Route 43 murder
 
Good news, an arrest made in the route 43 murder case. Contrast how TfL
bus management have been invisible regarding this incident, in contrast
to their LUL colleagues dealing with recent events.

However, why have we not seen any CCTV footage released? Is this
another case of equipment fitted but not working, as on the 7/7
explosion on route 26?

Peter Hendy bull****ed his way out of this by saying that the cameras
couldn't have witshstood the blast, yet the images are digitally stored
on a hard drive located on a part of the bus which was undamaged. The
destruction of the cameras was irrelevant in this instance as the
footage of the bomber would have already been recorded and archived.

TfL posters tell us 9 out of 10 buses are now fitted with CCTV.
Question is, how many are actually working?


Paul Terry August 5th 05 07:08 PM

Route 43 murder
 
In message .com,
writes

Good news, an arrest made in the route 43 murder case. Contrast how TfL
bus management have been invisible regarding this incident, in contrast
to their LUL colleagues dealing with recent events.

However, why have we not seen any CCTV footage released?


Presumably because the police had enough evidence to arrest someone
without the need for assistance from the public.

Is this another case of equipment fitted but not working, as on the
7/7 explosion on route 26?


Who knows? In the UK it is usually considered better not to release
evidence before the trial and verdict (unless really necessary) since
otherwise jury members might be prejudiced by reports they see in the
media, and the defence may explain inadvertent corroborative statements
by the accused by claiming that these facts were merely observed in
press reports.

TfL posters tell us 9 out of 10 buses are now fitted with CCTV.
Question is, how many are actually working?


This remains an important question, but it is not one that is
necessarily relevant to the route 43 murder. If there is video evidence,
I would not expect it to appear before the trial.

--
Paul Terry

Stuart August 5th 05 07:41 PM

Route 43 murder
 
wrote:

However, why have we not seen any CCTV footage released? Is this
another case of equipment fitted but not working, as on the 7/7
explosion on route 26?


Route 30


Richard J. August 5th 05 08:50 PM

Route 43 murder
 
wrote:
Good news, an arrest made in the route 43 murder case. Contrast how
TfL bus management have been invisible regarding this incident, in
contrast to their LUL colleagues dealing with recent events.


In what way did you expect London Buses to "deal with" this event? The
situations are quite different, aren't they?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Matt Ashby August 5th 05 09:28 PM

Route 43 murder
 
why have we not seen any CCTV footage released? Is this
another case of equipment fitted but not working, as on the 7/7
explosion on route 26?


Just because footage hasn't been released to the public
doesn't mean that there wasn't good quality CCTV on the
bus circulated to police quite quickly after the incident.

Or not, obviously.


Matt Ashby


[email protected] August 5th 05 10:57 PM

Route 43 murder
 
We'll see if it exists in time...

Just like the Aldwych bus bomb (oops cam not working).

One would hope London Buses management would issue high profile
statements to maintain passenger confidence.


Matt Ashby wrote:
why have we not seen any CCTV footage released? Is this
another case of equipment fitted but not working, as on the 7/7
explosion on route 26?


Just because footage hasn't been released to the public
doesn't mean that there wasn't good quality CCTV on the
bus circulated to police quite quickly after the incident.

Or not, obviously.


Matt Ashby



Robert Woolley August 5th 05 11:37 PM

Route 43 murder
 
On 5 Aug 2005 15:57:24 -0700, wrote:

We'll see if it exists in time...

Just like the Aldwych bus bomb (oops cam not working).

One would hope London Buses management would issue high profile
statements to maintain passenger confidence.


Issue statements to maintain confidence? How does that work exactly?

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

[email protected] August 6th 05 11:54 AM

Route 43 murder
 
"bus travel remains statistically safe....very rare...." etc.

Commiserations to the bereaved might not be a bad idea too.



Robert Woolley wrote:
On 5 Aug 2005 15:57:24 -0700, wrote:

We'll see if it exists in time...

Just like the Aldwych bus bomb (oops cam not working).

One would hope London Buses management would issue high profile
statements to maintain passenger confidence.


Issue statements to maintain confidence? How does that work exactly?

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk



Alek August 6th 05 09:08 PM

Route 43 murder
 
Indeed...But one might be "Statistically" safer from either Terrorist or
Nutcase attack were there to be a Well Trained and Motivated Conductor on
board one`s bus.
Pressing ahead with the removal of Conductors from the remaining London TPO
routes in the run up to Christmas does not exactly appear like a commonsense
approach to addressing a percieved threat from whatever quarter.....unless
one belongs to the loonier fringes of the Accountancy profession ?


[email protected] August 6th 05 10:47 PM

Route 43 murder
 
I suspect Peter Hendy & Co certainly belong to the "loonier fringes of
the Accountancy profession", firstly by justifying free travel for the
3rd world on bendy-bus routes, and secondly in allowing indigenous
feral low-life to swamp all services with the forthcoming free travel
for teenagers too.


Alek wrote:
Indeed...But one might be "Statistically" safer from either Terrorist or
Nutcase attack were there to be a Well Trained and Motivated Conductor on
board one`s bus.
Pressing ahead with the removal of Conductors from the remaining London TPO
routes in the run up to Christmas does not exactly appear like a commonsense
approach to addressing a percieved threat from whatever quarter.....unless
one belongs to the loonier fringes of the Accountancy profession ?




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