TKD wrote:
"Londoncityslicker" wrote in message
oups.com...

There are a number of NR stations with no gates at all, so no oyster
readers there.


To be absolutely clear that should have read:

"All NR stations in Zones 1-6 that already had gates had oyster pads fitted"

I would say that the majority of NR stations outside zone 2 don't have
readers!

Also, if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

--
Paul

Paul wrote:
TKD wrote:
"Londoncityslicker" wrote in message
oups.com...

There are a number of NR stations with no gates at all, so no oyster
readers there.


To be absolutely clear that should have read:

"All NR stations in Zones 1-6 that already had gates had oyster pads fitted"

I would say that the majority of NR stations outside zone 2 don't have
readers!

Also, if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

--
Paul


There's a little confusion here. All NR stations with automatic gates
have had Oyster readers fitted to them so people with season
Travelcards on Oyster can get through them.

The only *non-gated* stations that have had Oyster readers installed
are those which accept Pre Pay, of which there are few. A list of these
routes is he http://tinyurl.com/78fu8

NR ticket inspectors in London all carry a calculator sized Oyster
reader so they can see what ticket is held on the Oyster card.

It is correct to say that the 'Passengers Charter' discounts (for poor
performance) are only available when buying printed tickets from NR
train companies.

One could weigh this saving up against the potential convenience and
cost-savings that can be made should one regularly travel by Tube out
of the zones covered by your Travelcard, when the Oyster system
automatically deducts the extra as opposed to queuing and buying a
ticket extension.

For many people, the above scenario may well be rare, so they might as
well buy from their NR train company.

On 24 Aug 2005 07:48:42 -0700, "Paul"
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

--
James Farrar

September's coming soon

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:00:03 +0100, James Farrar
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

asdf wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:00:03 +0100, James Farrar
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

--
Paul

On 25 Aug 2005 03:24:34 -0700, "Paul"
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

South West Trains (don't know about other TOCs) now give the discount
on Oyster travelcards, provided you buy it from them.

Incidentally, which are the best (i.e. worst performing!) train
companies to buy Travelcard seasons from?

asdf wrote:
On 25 Aug 2005 03:24:34 -0700, "Paul"
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

South West Trains (don't know about other TOCs) now give the discount
on Oyster travelcards, provided you buy it from them.

I think it's only SWT and Silverlink that issue Oyster cards (and sell
tickets to be loaded to Oyster cards), though only at some stations.

I understand Silverlink issues Oyster at it's stations served by the
Bakerloo line, which makes a lot of sense.

I've heard SWT issues Oyster at Surbiton but I'd like to know where
else this happens. (AIUI all the Oyster issuing SWT stations are in the
zones as you can't get any out-of-London Travelcard seasons on Oyster,
only on printed tickets.)

I reckon SWT was possibly losong some of it's sales to TfL outlets as
it's passengers wanted to take advantage of the benefits of Oyster/
wanted to have the flashy new Oyster card.

Can anyone name any other NR TOCs that issue Oyster?

Incidentally, which are the best (i.e. worst performing!) train
companies to buy Travelcard seasons from?

Also a question I'd like answered! One could save oneself some money
here, and I'm sure a few people do already.

In article . com,
Mizter T wrote:
Can anyone name any other NR TOCs that issue Oyster?

At a guess, c2c at Barking & WAGN (or whoever it is) at Walthamstow Central.

I'll take a sidestep and find out.

--
Mike Bristow - really a very good driver

On 25 Aug 2005 10:57:26 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I think it's only SWT and Silverlink that issue Oyster cards (and sell
tickets to be loaded to Oyster cards), though only at some stations.

There are more One and WAGN for example. See the list of stations at:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...05.pdf#page=14
--

Cheers,

Jason.

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

asdf wrote:
On 25 Aug 2005 03:24:34 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

South West Trains (don't know about other TOCs) now give the discount
on Oyster travelcards, provided you buy it from them.

Didn't know that. I doubt my little local station handles Oyster
though.. and I doubt you can topup on SWTs website, but I will check.

Incidentally, which are the best (i.e. worst performing!) train
companies to buy Travelcard seasons from?

SWT gives me a 5% discount. SE trains (previously Connex) used to give
7% when I lived that way.

--
Paul