asdf wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:00:03 +0100, James Farrar
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

--
Paul

On 25 Aug 2005 03:24:34 -0700, "Paul"
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

South West Trains (don't know about other TOCs) now give the discount
on Oyster travelcards, provided you buy it from them.

Incidentally, which are the best (i.e. worst performing!) train
companies to buy Travelcard seasons from?

asdf wrote:
On 25 Aug 2005 03:24:34 -0700, "Paul"
wrote:

if you are using an Oyster travelcard it's better to get a paper
travelcard, otherwise you don't get the discount.

What discount?

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

South West Trains (don't know about other TOCs) now give the discount
on Oyster travelcards, provided you buy it from them.

I think it's only SWT and Silverlink that issue Oyster cards (and sell
tickets to be loaded to Oyster cards), though only at some stations.

I understand Silverlink issues Oyster at it's stations served by the
Bakerloo line, which makes a lot of sense.

I've heard SWT issues Oyster at Surbiton but I'd like to know where
else this happens. (AIUI all the Oyster issuing SWT stations are in the
zones as you can't get any out-of-London Travelcard seasons on Oyster,
only on printed tickets.)

I reckon SWT was possibly losong some of it's sales to TfL outlets as
it's passengers wanted to take advantage of the benefits of Oyster/
wanted to have the flashy new Oyster card.

Can anyone name any other NR TOCs that issue Oyster?

Incidentally, which are the best (i.e. worst performing!) train
companies to buy Travelcard seasons from?

Also a question I'd like answered! One could save oneself some money
here, and I'm sure a few people do already.

In article . com,
Mizter T wrote:
Can anyone name any other NR TOCs that issue Oyster?

At a guess, c2c at Barking & WAGN (or whoever it is) at Walthamstow Central.

I'll take a sidestep and find out.

--
Mike Bristow - really a very good driver

Mike Bristow wrote:
In article . com,
Mizter T wrote:

Can anyone name any other NR TOCs that issue Oyster?


At a guess, c2c at Barking & WAGN (or whoever it is) at Walthamstow Central.

I'll take a sidestep and find out.


Half the windows are usually shut and half of them say "no oyster here",
the LUL office is always closed, half the NR ticket machines are out of
order quite often, and there is no LUL fast ticket machine.

It's really not much fun getting tickets at Walthamstow.

If only they would just put one of those little Fast Ticket machines
downstairs...

Dave Newt wrote:
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article . com,
Mizter T wrote:

Can anyone name any other NR TOCs that issue Oyster?


At a guess, c2c at Barking & WAGN (or whoever it is) at Walthamstow Central.

I'll take a sidestep and find out.


Half the windows are usually shut and half of them say "no oyster here",
the LUL office is always closed, half the NR ticket machines are out of
order quite often, and there is no LUL fast ticket machine.

It's really not much fun getting tickets at Walthamstow.

If only they would just put one of those little Fast Ticket machines
downstairs...

That sounds like a poor situation. I can only suggest you use Oyster
Pre Pay if you wish to use the Tube, and add credit to your card at a
local newsagent. Again, if you need a season Travelcard then a
newsagent will do the job, ditto for Day Travelcards.

Plus it's worth noting you can also use Oyster Pre Pay on NR between
Liverpool Street and Walthamstow Central/ Tottenham Hale/ Seven
Sisters, but not at intermediate stations.

Price wise Pre Pay is cheaper for a single journey - £2.50 (or £2.00
after 7pm and at weekends) as opposed to £2.80 for a printed single
ticket. However printed CDR's and standard returns (for travel before
9.30am) cost £3.30 and £4.70 respectively (whilst an Oyster return
would cost £5.00 or £4.00), thus a printed ticket will always work
out cheaper for a straightforward return journey. However if you're
using the Tube for onward journeys from Liverpool Street then Oyster
Pre Pay capping will kick in, so it's could be quite useful after all.


Anyway there's a few ideas for avoiding the ticket offices/ machines at
Walthamstow, but I'm not making excuses for anyone - a busy station
such as Walthamstow really should be well equipped and competent enough
to sell tickets!

A question - do *any* of the NR ticket windows at Walthamstow deal with
Oyster?

Mizter T wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:


Half the windows are usually shut and half of them say "no oyster here",
the LUL office is always closed, half the NR ticket machines are out of
order quite often, and there is no LUL fast ticket machine.

It's really not much fun getting tickets at Walthamstow.

If only they would just put one of those little Fast Ticket machines
downstairs...


That sounds like a poor situation. I can only suggest you use Oyster
Pre Pay if you wish to use the Tube, and add credit to your card at a
local newsagent. Again, if you need a season Travelcard then a
newsagent will do the job, ditto for Day Travelcards.

I have Oyster season anyway, and I just refill it at the work end of my
journey rather than the home end.


Anyway there's a few ideas for avoiding the ticket offices/ machines at
Walthamstow, but I'm not making excuses for anyone - a busy station
such as Walthamstow really should be well equipped and competent enough
to sell tickets!

A question - do *any* of the NR ticket windows at Walthamstow deal with
Oyster?

I was deliberately vague above - I know that the two windows on the
Liverpool Street platform there DON'T. The windows on the Chingford
side, I don't remember (I'm thinking they must do for the original claim
to be true!), but I'll have a look and see (or someone here will know,
I'm sure).

On 25 Aug 2005 10:57:26 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I think it's only SWT and Silverlink that issue Oyster cards (and sell
tickets to be loaded to Oyster cards), though only at some stations.

There are more One and WAGN for example. See the list of stations at:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...05.pdf#page=14
--

Cheers,

Jason.

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Jason wrote:
On 25 Aug 2005 10:57:26 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:


I think it's only SWT and Silverlink that issue Oyster cards (and sell
tickets to be loaded to Oyster cards), though only at some stations.


There are more One and WAGN for example. See the list of stations at:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...05.pdf#page=14

We already know that the inclusion of Walthamstow on that list is a lie
- how many other stations on the list is it not actually true for?

asdf wrote:
On 25 Aug 2005 03:24:34 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

On NR you can get discounts on season ticket renewals if the train
company you buy the ticket from performs badly. (You don't have to
actually use it on their trains to receive the discount.)

Exactly. Which is why there is no incentive for me to get an Oyster
travelcard!

South West Trains (don't know about other TOCs) now give the discount
on Oyster travelcards, provided you buy it from them.

Didn't know that. I doubt my little local station handles Oyster
though.. and I doubt you can topup on SWTs website, but I will check.

Incidentally, which are the best (i.e. worst performing!) train
companies to buy Travelcard seasons from?

SWT gives me a 5% discount. SE trains (previously Connex) used to give
7% when I lived that way.

--
Paul