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Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the official (or unofficial) word is on when
the southern extension of the East London Line Project will be
complete?

It seems to change every time I read a different article.

Thanks,

JM.

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"Mcrith" wrote in message
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Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the official (or unofficial) word is on when
the southern extension of the East London Line Project will be
complete?

It seems to change every time I read a different article.

Thanks,

JM.

Latest official stuff giving dates on their site is:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/rail/downloads...pdate17.08.pdf

Of course the site generally hasn't changed much over the last year, with
the lead item still being Ken announcing that TfL are now responsible
(November 2004)!

Paul

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Paul Scott wrote on Thu, 15 Sep 2005

"Mcrith" wrote in message
ups.com...
Can anyone tell me what the official (or unofficial) word is on when
the southern extension of the East London Line Project will be
complete?

It seems to change every time I read a different article.

Latest official stuff giving dates on their site is:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/rail/downloads...pdate17.08.pdf

Of course the site generally hasn't changed much over the last year, with
the lead item still being Ken announcing that TfL are now responsible
(November 2004)!

Was it not once planned to go through Peckham Rye? When and why was
that plan changed?
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:44:57 +0100, Iain Archer
wrote:

Was it not once planned to go through Peckham Rye? When and why was
that plan changed?

That's part of Phase 2. There is apparently no date specified for the
completion (or even start of construction) of Phase 2. Perhaps it
depends on the success of Phase 1 (which is supposed to be completed
in 2010).

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In message , Iain Archer
writes

Was it not once planned to go through Peckham Rye?

It still is - on the way to Clapham Junction.

When and why was that plan changed?

I don't think it has changed - although the Clapham Junction line is
Phase 2 of the scheme, not Phase 1, and dates for Phase 2 seem a bit
vague!

--
Paul Terry

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Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Iain Archer
writes

Was it not once planned to go through Peckham Rye?

It still is - on the way to Clapham Junction.

When and why was that plan changed?

I don't think it has changed - although the Clapham Junction line is
Phase 2 of the scheme, not Phase 1, and dates for Phase 2 seem a bit
vague!

--
Paul Terry

Maybe I'm missing something here , but given the southern section isn't
actually a "line" but simply a route over pre-existing tracks , what
exactly
is the problem? They could send it to dover via bournemouth if they
were
so inclined. Seems to me all it requires is some pen pusher to rubber
stamp it and a team of workers to spend a weekend putting some
connecting
track in at new cross and thats that. The hard parts as far as I can
see
are building the northern part and converting the current LUL line to
3rd
rail.

B2003

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"Boltar" wrote in message
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Maybe I'm missing something here , but given the southern section isn't
actually a "line" but simply a route over pre-existing tracks , what
exactly
is the problem? They could send it to dover via bournemouth if they
were
so inclined. Seems to me all it requires is some pen pusher to rubber
stamp it and a team of workers to spend a weekend putting some
connecting
track in at new cross and thats that. The hard parts as far as I can
see
are building the northern part and converting the current LUL line to
3rd
rail.

B2003


I understand there is a short stretch at Surrey Canal Rd, where the track
and junctions needs to be reinstated, not sure if the formation is still
available; and a modern 'gold plated' station built. Funding for this is
not yet earmarked but may be in 2006/8 or sometime...

Paul

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Well , I suspect there'll be a fair amount of renewing. IMO
tho extending the ELL south is a bad idea anyway. It should
have been kept as a self contained LUL line with a northern
extension, making it run on the crowded south london network
rail tracks is only going to make a timetable disaster whatever
they brag about 10 trains an hour (or whatever it is this week).
Would have been far easier (and cheaper , they could have
kept the same trains, saved on 3rd rail conversion etc etc) to
just make better interconnecting services at New Cross and
New Cross Gate. Next they'll be having C2C takiing over
the District line to Upminster.

B2003

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Exactly, having multiple southern end destinations all with varying
journey times is a nightmare for timetable compilation and reliability
and will prevent 'tube' levels of frequency on the individual branches.


It was bad enough when the individual ELL termini had a 20 min evening
service, if you just missed a train at the 'Cross' at night, you could
walk to the 'Gate' only to just miss that departure too 10 mins' later!
Far better a combined service running to one or other only but then no
good for the BR interchange.

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"Boltar" wrote in message
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IMO tho extending the ELL south is a bad
idea anyway. It should have been kept as
a self contained LUL line with a northern extension

Except that the new large depot will be at Selhurst.

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