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October 18th 05, 11:23 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4352520.stm
US embassy staff not paying their congestion zone tax. Livingstone says it's not a tax but a "charge" and therefore not exempt from the 1961 Vienna Convention. -- New anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com |
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October 19th 05, 07:33 PM
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Colum Mylod wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4352520.stm US embassy staff not paying their congestion zone tax. Livingstone says it's not a tax but a "charge" and therefore not exempt from the 1961 Vienna Convention. -- New anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com Has Mr. Kiley (sp?) commented on this? A. |
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October 19th 05, 08:45 PM
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In article .com,
"Adrian Auer-Hudson" wrote: Colum Mylod wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4352520.stm US embassy staff not paying their congestion zone tax. Livingstone says it's not a tax but a "charge" and therefore not exempt from the 1961 Vienna Convention. -- New anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com Has Mr. Kiley (sp?) commented on this? Here's what I wrote when the charge came out: Just because -they- call it a congestion charge doesn't mean -we- should. It is nothing more than a clever way for OPACs to tax exurbanites. It isn't a congestion charge because the the price is not related to the amount of roads usage. It is not a congestion charge because there are exemptions and discounts based on residence location. It is not a congestion charge because some of the money goes towards more vehicles on the roads. It is a POV excise tax with a special treatment clause for OPACians. That there is no outrage shows just how far the NUTSO crowd have taken over the process. Inner London Auto Disincentive? Yet Another Transit Subsidy? Anything but don't call it smart growth and don't call it congestion charge. |
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October 19th 05, 09:01 PM
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You forgot to mention that the Krauts are mixed up in this dispute too.
They charge British coach operators VAT to use their roads and their police have powers to seize coaches not carrying a German VAT registration certificate. The office that's supposed to deal with the issue of these certificates (Finanzamt Hanover-Nord) routinely ignores requests from British coach operators for VAT registration forms - even if they are written in German! Perhaps the Krauts should sort that out before crying over the Congestion charge, then they might earn a bit of tourist income in Sterling that would enable them to cough up to Ken. |
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October 20th 05, 01:26 AM
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And hypocrite Cote will just as glibly rationalize the gas tax as a "user
fee". Cote is a NUTSE (No Urban Transit Should Exist). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Robert Cote" wrote in message ... In article .com, "Adrian Auer-Hudson" wrote: Colum Mylod wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4352520.stm US embassy staff not paying their congestion zone tax. Livingstone says it's not a tax but a "charge" and therefore not exempt from the 1961 Vienna Convention. -- New anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com Has Mr. Kiley (sp?) commented on this? Here's what I wrote when the charge came out: Just because -they- call it a congestion charge doesn't mean -we- should. It is nothing more than a clever way for OPACs to tax exurbanites. It isn't a congestion charge because the the price is not related to the amount of roads usage. It is not a congestion charge because there are exemptions and discounts based on residence location. It is not a congestion charge because some of the money goes towards more vehicles on the roads. It is a POV excise tax with a special treatment clause for OPACians. That there is no outrage shows just how far the NUTSO crowd have taken over the process. Inner London Auto Disincentive? Yet Another Transit Subsidy? Anything but don't call it smart growth and don't call it congestion charge. |
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