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Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?

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Andrea wrote:
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?


They do, often accompanied by coppers.


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On 7 Nov 2005 13:05:22 -0800, "Andrea" wrote:

Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?


Yes - sometimes in uniform, sometimes plain clothes. Not always at the
gates either - often on interchange routes or on train. There are
occasional big checks with the police and drug dogs too. We had a spate
of those at Walthamstow earlier this year.
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In article .com,
Andrea wrote:
Yes,
there are barriers at all stations


Oh, no there aren't.

See, for example, Finchley Central. Or many other stations in the outer
reaches of the lines, which either have now barriers, or the barriers
are often left open.

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Andrea wrote:
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground?


Yes. They were at Kings Cross today (H&C/Circle/Met) outside the
barriers.

I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as everyone
they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier with their
Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't seem to care
about those, like me, with paper tickets.

What were they hoping to find/discover? No police with them, but there
are police (Community Support for BTP) nearby I suppose.

Jonathan



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schrieb im Newsbeitrag...
Andrea wrote:
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground?


Yes. They were at Kings Cross today (H&C/Circle/Met) outside the
barriers.

I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as everyone
they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier with their
Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't seem to care
about those, like me, with paper tickets.


Excuse me, possibly stupid: How far does LU reserve the right to check your
ticket after passing the gates or leaving a bus? Honestly, after I passed
the gates I would have thought I left their area of control.

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?


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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:01:38 +0100, "Ralf Mayer"
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schrieb im Newsbeitrag...
Andrea wrote:
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground?


Yes. They were at Kings Cross today (H&C/Circle/Met) outside the
barriers.

I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as everyone
they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier with their
Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't seem to care
about those, like me, with paper tickets.


Excuse me, possibly stupid: How far does LU reserve the right to check your
ticket after passing the gates or leaving a bus? Honestly, after I passed
the gates I would have thought I left their area of control.


Kings Cross station is in too halves. The connecting corridors, while
affording access to the street, are still LU property and therefore it
is legitimate in this case.

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?


I agree it would be stretching the jurisdiction of ticket inspectors if
they just stopped you on the pavement outside - unless they were with a
policeman and you had been asked to stop inside LU property and you had
sought to escape.
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Just thinking about this on....the sign that says you must have a valid
ticket is on the barrier....it says you must not enter without a valid
ticket so i guess if they witness you exiting.....youve also entered a
ticket area.

Mal

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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:01:38 +0100, "Ralf Mayer"
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schrieb im Newsbeitrag...
Andrea wrote:
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground?

Yes. They were at Kings Cross today (H&C/Circle/Met) outside the
barriers.

I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as everyone
they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier with their
Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't seem to care
about those, like me, with paper tickets.


Excuse me, possibly stupid: How far does LU reserve the right to check
your
ticket after passing the gates or leaving a bus? Honestly, after I passed
the gates I would have thought I left their area of control.


Kings Cross station is in too halves. The connecting corridors, while
affording access to the street, are still LU property and therefore it
is legitimate in this case.

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?


I agree it would be stretching the jurisdiction of ticket inspectors if
they just stopped you on the pavement outside - unless they were with a
policeman and you had been asked to stop inside LU property and you had
sought to escape.
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Paul C


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I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as everyone
they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier with their
Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't seem to care
about those, like me, with paper tickets.


Excuse me, possibly stupid: How far does LU reserve the right to check

your
ticket after passing the gates or leaving a bus? Honestly, after I passed
the gates I would have thought I left their area of control.


I'd agree with that when it comes to having left a bus, but they have the
right to ask to inspect your ticket anywhere on LU premises.

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?


Well if they'd just seen you pass through the exit gates or you emerged from
a direction where there were only exit gates then I should imagine they'd be
disinclined to believe you. As far as I am aware you don't actually have to
be caught in the act of breaching the bye-laws, only for it to be reasonable
to believe that you have done so.

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I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as everyone
they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier with their
Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't seem to care
about those, like me, with paper tickets.


Excuse me, possibly stupid: How far does LU reserve the right to check

your
ticket after passing the gates or leaving a bus? Honestly, after I passed
the gates I would have thought I left their area of control.


I'd agree with that when it comes to having left a bus, but they have the
right to ask to inspect your ticket anywhere on LU premises.

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?


Well if they'd just seen you pass through the exit gates or you emerged
from
a direction where there were only exit gates then I should imagine they'd
be
disinclined to believe you.


As the machine keep the used tickets, what proof of payment
do they expect you to have?

tim




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