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Old November 23rd 05, 10:16 PM posted to uk.railway;,uk.transport.london
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Default Routing enquiry - Fleet to London Terminals

I now have a Fleet-London Terminals season ticket, valid "any
permitted".

I assume it's valid on the mainline from Fleet to Waterloo, plus
Waterloo to London Bridge overground and Clapham Jcn to Victoria.

It's difficult to see what other routes might be permitted - via
Cobham to Guildford is a possibility I suppose, or on the Clapham Jcn
- Willesden Line (can I go to Kenny O on it?) Can anyone confirm if
there are any routes it might be valid on that I'm currently unaware
of?

Cheers,

Phil

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Old November 23rd 05, 10:21 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default Routing enquiry - Fleet to London Terminals

I now have a Fleet-London Terminals season ticket, valid "any
permitted".

I assume it's valid on the mainline from Fleet to Waterloo, plus
Waterloo to London Bridge overground and Clapham Jcn to Victoria.

It's difficult to see what other routes might be permitted - via
Cobham to Guildford is a possibility I suppose, or on the Clapham Jcn
- Willesden Line (can I go to Kenny O on it?) Can anyone confirm if
there are any routes it might be valid on that I'm currently unaware
of?

Cheers,

Phil

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Old November 23rd 05, 10:52 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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"Phil Clark" wrote in message
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I now have a Fleet-London Terminals season ticket, valid "any
permitted".

I assume it's valid on the mainline from Fleet to Waterloo, plus
Waterloo to London Bridge overground and Clapham Jcn to Victoria.

It's difficult to see what other routes might be permitted - via
Cobham to Guildford is a possibility I suppose, or on the Clapham Jcn
- Willesden Line (can I go to Kenny O on it?) Can anyone confirm if
there are any routes it might be valid on that I'm currently unaware
of?


Try http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html and
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20Guide/enrg.htm
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David Biddulph


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"Phil Clark" wrote in message
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I now have a Fleet-London Terminals season ticket, valid "any
permitted".

I assume it's valid on the mainline from Fleet to Waterloo, plus
Waterloo to London Bridge overground and Clapham Jcn to Victoria.

It's difficult to see what other routes might be permitted - via
Cobham to Guildford is a possibility I suppose, or on the Clapham Jcn
- Willesden Line (can I go to Kenny O on it?) Can anyone confirm if
there are any routes it might be valid on that I'm currently unaware
of?


Try http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html and
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20Guide/enrg.htm


It's a bit difficult as Map CS seems to be bust. Routeing points are
Farnborough and Basingstoke. I'm assuming Farnborough will always be OK on
the fares rule going to London. Basingstoke is no good (on fares rule) so
you can't go via Reading to Paddington.

Regards

Jonathan


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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:52:26 +0000 (UTC), "David Biddulph"
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Try http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html and
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20Guide/enrg.htm


Thanks. Clive's site seems to add Blackfriars to the list of possible
London termini; the Atoc site I'm not quite sure I understand... but I
will persevere!


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"Phil Clark" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:52:26 +0000 (UTC), "David Biddulph"
wrote:

Try http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html and
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20Guide/enrg.htm


Thanks. Clive's site seems to add Blackfriars to the list of possible
London termini; the Atoc site I'm not quite sure I understand... but I
will persevere!


You mad fool, you...

Jonathan


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Jonathan Morton wrote:
"David Biddulph" wrote in message
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"Phil Clark" wrote in message
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I now have a Fleet-London Terminals season ticket, valid "any
permitted".

I assume it's valid on the mainline from Fleet to Waterloo, plus
Waterloo to London Bridge overground and Clapham Jcn to Victoria.

It's difficult to see what other routes might be permitted - via
Cobham to Guildford is a possibility I suppose, or on the Clapham Jcn
- Willesden Line (can I go to Kenny O on it?) Can anyone confirm if
there are any routes it might be valid on that I'm currently unaware
of?


Try http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html and
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20Guide/enrg.htm


It's a bit difficult as Map CS seems to be bust. Routeing points are
Farnborough and Basingstoke. I'm assuming Farnborough will always be OK on
the fares rule going to London. Basingstoke is no good (on fares rule) so
you can't go via Reading to Paddington.

Regards

Jonathan




Map CS (You can get it by clicking on download all maps on the maps
page, but be warned it is a hefty pdf) in combination with Map WR
basically seems to be there to allow you to go from Farnborough to
Reading via Wokingham and thence *via Slough* to Paddington or
Waterloo via Olympia and Clapham Junction.

It also seems to allow a ridiculous route from Farnborough to Guildford
and on to Redhill via the North Downs then through Croydon and
Streatham (since these are routing groups I assume that routes via
either Selhurst or Gipsy Hill to Balham are valid) to Clapham
Junction. This is all on map CS from Clapham Junction you can travel on
map WR to Waterloo, or possibly via Olympia to Paddington (if that is
possible without falling foul of the doubling back rule) You'd have to
be very brave to try that one (although it does extend the usefulness
of your season ticket considerably) and if you do I suggest that you
carry printouts of the relevant sections and maps from the routing
guide.

Map WX is direct via Woking to Victoria or Waterloo.

To further answer the OPs queried routes via Guildford and Cobham is
not allowed, nor is Guildford and Woking. The Chertsey route is not
allowed and nor are routes using the Reading to Waterloo line.

Hope that helps,

David

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Old November 24th 05, 12:12 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Jonathan Morton wrote:

It's a bit difficult as Map CS seems to be bust.


Indeed its JPG seems to be missing from the individual maps, but it's
present in the PDF download of section D - or at least it was when I
downloaded a copy a couple of weeks back, which is a bit short of
500kB if one cares to fetch it:
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20G...s/sectiond.pdf

Map CS comes with the catchy title of:
South East to North West and Lincolnshire via Birmingham
continued on next page

cheers
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Phil Clark wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:52:26 +0000 (UTC), "David Biddulph"
wrote:

Try http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html and
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20Guide/enrg.htm


Thanks. Clive's site seems to add Blackfriars to the list of possible
London termini; the Atoc site I'm not quite sure I understand... but I
will persevere!

My Watford Junc to Vauxhall (via Clapham) is shown as London Termini
and is exactly the same as a WJ to Euston so I suppose you could go up
to Willesden then into Euston if you had too much time to know what to
do with. I guess Kensington is ok.

Kevin

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