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Robin Mayes December 5th 05 04:45 PM

Seven Sisters This Morning
 

"Ken" wrote in message
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First of all, how can a 'power surge' cause a major explosion on one
train but not all of the others fed by the same substation? And there
were several trains. So, a system-wide 'surge'? Again, why would most
trains be unaffected?

And just how would the power supply apparently 'surge'? Maybe the grid
voltage could have shot up suddenly, but how? Wouldn't other
recipients of electricity (including National Rail electric services
in the London area) have noticed? And wouldn't the power supply, and
the trains, have had some protection?


Firstly, the story wasn't fabricated. Having been at Liverpool Street at the
time, standing in the main booking hall when the explosion occurred, I went
to the control room to take charge of the incident. As the control room
staff had already started the evacuation I contacted the Central Line
controller to advise them we were evacuating and for trains to non-stop,
stating there'd been a "rather large bang". The indications at the time at
that station, and other stations who were phoning us to find out what had
happened had the same symptoms as when a 22KV cable in a tunnel at Earls
Court failed. Obviously those who were receiving more information from other
parts of the network would have soon realised that as there were multiple
incident sites at the same time something far worse had happened, but I
would guess they were too busy dealing with life-saving at multiple sites to
give the press an update.

Incidentally, having seen the site at Aldgate, I was technically correct
regarding the 22kv cable, as it had, indeed, been vaporised.



Robin Mayes December 5th 05 04:46 PM

Seven Sisters This Morning
 

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

I note that a number of coppers involved on 7th July have received awards.
Does anyone know if TfL/LU will be making similar awards to their members

of
staff who were on the ground and publicising the fact?


There are various award sessions taking place, yes.



Brimstone December 5th 05 04:49 PM

Seven Sisters This Morning
 
Robin Mayes wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

I note that a number of coppers involved on 7th July have received
awards. Does anyone know if TfL/LU will be making similar awards to
their members of staff who were on the ground and publicising the
fact?


There are various award sessions taking place, yes.


Good news and let's hope the Standard et al can give praise where it's due.



Robin Mayes December 5th 05 04:51 PM

Seven Sisters This Morning
 

"asdf" wrote in message
...

I think there are two issues being confused here. There's no reason to
doubt that TPTB at LU spent the first 20 minutes (or hour or however
long) thinking a power surge was responsible for the incidents.
However, the public were told for *hours* afterwards that it was just
a power surge. For the whole morning, news organisations were
variously reporting up to 7 explosions on the Underground and up to 3
on buses, while being kept completely in the dark by official sources.
There was a definite witholding of information, be it at the behest of
LU, or the security services, or whoever.


Having seen some of the tactics the media, especially the foreign press
adopted to try and get "exclusive footage" of the incident sites I am so
glad nobody updated the media. We had a few more pressing concerns, like
trying to save lives and evacuating customers from trains stuck in tunnels.




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