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[email protected] December 5th 05 12:13 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
Anyone have any experience of this ? Difficult ?


Tom Anderson December 5th 05 12:37 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 wrote:

Anyone have any experience of this ? Difficult ?


Not personally, but i did Colchester - Liverpool Street for a while, which
was okay. Given that you're going half the distance and against the peak
flow (you do mean Liverpool Street to Chelmsford, right?), you should be
laughing.

tom

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[email protected] December 5th 05 12:50 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
Thanks Tom.

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


David Hansen December 5th 05 01:27 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
On 5 Dec 2005 05:13:17 -0800 someone who may be
wrote this:-

Anyone have any experience of this ? Difficult ?


I suggest also asking in uk.railway.


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Gizmo December 5th 05 04:21 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Anyone have any experience of this ? Difficult ?


Dead easy. Takes about 35 minutes.



Tom Anderson December 5th 05 05:12 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 wrote:

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?


Ah.

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


That sounds broadly right. It's the Wimbledon - Liverpool Street bit
that's going to hurt; once you're at LLS, Bob's your uncle. The obvious
route in is to take the District, then change to the Circle somewhere
before Tower Hill; the other options would involve getting into town and
onto the Central line, but i don't think that's going to be any quicker.

A lot of trains on the Great Eastern stop at Stratford these days; there
might be some advantage in doing Wimbledon - Stratford - Chelmsford;
perhaps a train to Waterloo, then Jubilee line to Stratford. You still
have to ride the peak to Waterloo, and probably to Stratford too, but you
don't have to go via the middle of town.

The good news is that the extra length of your journey, relative to normal
into-London commutes, means that you'll be setting off earlier anyway, so
you might get through town before the worst of the peak hits. If you're
lucky.

tom

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Paul Corfield December 5th 05 06:37 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
On 5 Dec 2005 05:50:09 -0800, wrote:

Thanks Tom.

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.


Not a journey I'd want to do. I think you will end up on 2 trains and 2
tubes each way.

SWT to Waterloo, W&C Line to Bank, Central Line to Liv St and then One
Anglia to Chelmsford. Depending on your start time you might need to
start early and have not too bad a trip or else run later and face awful
crowding all the way to Liverpool St.

Interestingly the National Rail Journey Planner routes most trips via
the Jubilee Line from Waterloo to Stratford to pick up your Chelmsford
train. Using that option you end up a trip time nearer 1hr 50mins but
the planner does add in huge journey times for the Tube and for
interchange. Once you get used to the regular timings you can achieve
for interchange and the Tube journey then you can take less time. The
main advantage you have is that all journey legs have frequent services.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


Wreckon - yep I think I'd be a wreck trying to do that every day.

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Peter Smyth December 5th 05 07:09 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks Tom.

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


1.5 hours should be possible on a good day. The good thing about Wimbledon
is that you have several different possible routes all taking about the same
time. So if one line is messed up you can just go a different way.

The TfL Journey Planner gives 41-43 mins Wimbledon - Waterloo - Bank -
Liverpool Street, 48-49 mins Wimbledon - Notting Hill Gate - Liverpool
Street, 49-50 mins Wimbledon - Tower Hill - Liverpool Street, 51 mins
Wimbledon - Edgware Road - Liverpool Street or 54-57 mins Wimbledon -
Waterloo - Stratford.

Peter Smyth



Martin Rich December 6th 05 07:52 AM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
On 5 Dec 2005 05:50:09 -0800, wrote:

Thanks Tom.

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


OK - I did something like this 20+ years ago as a student on work
placement for a few weeks. Fortunately my employer put me up in a B &
B 4 nights a week, so I was doing Wimbledon-Ingatestone (just a bit
nearer to London than Chelmsford) on Monday mornings and the reverse
on Friday afternoons. I definitely did Wimbledon-Waterloo then W & C
line to Bank then walk to Liverpool Street then train to Ingatestone.
From memory 1.5 hours was a best case with no delays: each individual
leg might have been fairly quick but they all added up.

And even though it was a long time ago I don't think the journey time
today would be very different. Obviously a huge amount has changed
since but the only one which would have affected the geography of this
journey would be the availability of Jubilee line Waterloo-Stratford
as an alternative way to cross London.

Martin


Ian December 6th 05 11:29 AM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks Tom.

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


Transport Direct http://www.transportdirect.com/ reckons on 1:26 leaving
Wimbledon at 0708 tomorrow morning. Take the train to Waterloo, change on to
Waterloo and City line to Bank, Central line to Liverpool Street and then
let the train take the strain to Chelmsford.

If you left at 0758 the same route would take 1:13 apparently. I have no
idea if this is accurate, but it is funded by the Department of Transport.
So if you believe what the government tells you........

Ian



David Boothroyd December 6th 05 08:16 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
In article ,
Steve Firth wrote:
wrote:
Anyone have any experience of this ?


Only about 50% of the population of Chelmsford.

Difficult ?


No, but Chelmsford is a dump, and most of the villages around are the
sort of places where brothers marry their sisters at the age of 11.


There is talk among the people of Chelmsford of another station being
built north-east of the town, near the villages of Springfield and
Boreham, to add capacity.

Among the knowledgable the talk goes roughly like this: "You know that
new station? There's not a cat in hell's chance of it ever getting
built".

Unfortunately Chelmsford is currently deciding where to place extra
housing based on the fact that the station is going to be built.

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Laurence Payne December 7th 05 12:40 AM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
On 5 Dec 2005 05:50:09 -0800, wrote:

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


Liverpool St Chelmsford is an easy and fast route. You also have the
option of picking up most Chelmsford trains at Stratford.

On the Wimbledon leg you can go London Bridge or Waterloo. From
London Bridge you can walk or 'bus to Liverpool St. From Waterloo you
can take the drain to Bank then Central Line (or 'bus or walk) to
Liverpool St. Or you can walk over the river and take Circle from
Embankment. Or you can take Jubilee to Stratford. This sounds
complicated, but the great plus is the number of options. Unless the
system is completely down, you'll get there.

I live at Ilford, on the Chelmsford Liverpool St line. Sometimes I
have to be in Wimbledon by 10.00 a.m.. I'm safe as long as I'm on a
train at Ilford soon after 9.00. Ilford Stratford Bank Waterloo
Wimbledon.


John December 7th 05 05:09 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
In article , Tom
Anderson writes
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 wrote:

Actually - what I am really interested in is can I do this from SW19
(Wimbledon) ?


Ah.

Wimbledon - Liverpool Street - Chelmsford.

Sounds horrible - but I wreckon 1.5 hours ???


That sounds broadly right. It's the Wimbledon - Liverpool Street bit
that's going to hurt; once you're at LLS, Bob's your uncle. The obvious
route in is to take the District, then change to the Circle somewhere
before Tower Hill; the other options would involve getting into town and
onto the Central line, but i don't think that's going to be any quicker.

A lot of trains on the Great Eastern stop at Stratford these days; there
might be some advantage in doing Wimbledon - Stratford - Chelmsford;
perhaps a train to Waterloo, then Jubilee line to Stratford. You still
have to ride the peak to Waterloo, and probably to Stratford too, but you
don't have to go via the middle of town.

The good news is that the extra length of your journey, relative to normal
into-London commutes, means that you'll be setting off earlier anyway, so
you might get through town before the worst of the peak hits. If you're
lucky.

tom

You might want to check the fares, etc. - it may be cheaper to buy daily
tickets from Liverpool Street because they count as off peak than a
season. My kids go to Chelmsford against the peak and it works out well
over £50 a year cheaper to go to the station each Sunday and buy a
week's worth of tickets than it is to buy them a season ticket.
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KeithExford December 10th 05 12:35 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
Steve Firth ha scritto nel messaggio


No, but Chelmsford is a dump,


With the world's greatest baptist church, Broomleigh Baptist Church.

http://broomleigh.name/

and most of the villages around are the sort of places
where brothers marry their sisters at the age of 11.


You can tell the Chelmsford virgin, because she can run faster than her uncle.
Rather that, than have Atheist trash polluting our town.

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KeithExford December 10th 05 01:13 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
David Boothroyd ha scritto nel messaggio


Unfortunately Chelmsford is currently deciding where to place extra
housing based on the fact that the station is going to be built.


Just as long as none of it is wasted on the poor, eh comrade?

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Clive D. W. Feather December 13th 05 02:13 PM

Commuting from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford
 
In article , Ian
writes
Transport Direct http://www.transportdirect.com/ reckons

[...]
I have no
idea if this is accurate, but it is funded by the Department of Transport.


You might want to Google for previous examples of the, um, interesting
ideas thrown up by Transport Direct.

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