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David Cantrell January 18th 06 08:38 PM

Return ticket dates
 
Does anyone know why I can't buy a return ticket between Thornton
Heath and Gatwick returning on a different date from when I start out?

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tim \(moved to sweden\) January 18th 06 10:42 PM

Return ticket dates
 

"David Cantrell" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know why I can't buy a return ticket between Thornton
Heath and Gatwick returning on a different date from when I start out?


For no more reason than, because you can't.

More specifically, because an open period return does not
exist for that journey (but TBH I don't think that tells you
any more than the first line that I wrote)

tim


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Jack Taylor January 19th 06 12:13 AM

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tim (moved to sweden) wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know why I can't buy a return ticket between Thornton
Heath and Gatwick returning on a different date from when I start
out?


For no more reason than, because you can't.

More specifically, because an open period return does not
exist for that journey (but TBH I don't think that tells you
any more than the first line that I wrote)


IIRC it was during BR days that a lot of period returns of under 50 miles
were discontinued. CDRs were retained but, since then, for all other
journeys single tickets are required.



asdf January 19th 06 09:21 AM

Return ticket dates
 
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:42:23 +0100, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:

Does anyone know why I can't buy a return ticket between Thornton
Heath and Gatwick returning on a different date from when I start out?


For no more reason than, because you can't.

More specifically, because an open period return does not
exist for that journey (but TBH I don't think that tells you
any more than the first line that I wrote)


Unless tickets are checked often, daily commuters would be able to get
away with buying this type of ticket and re-using it every day, only
needing to buy a new one if the old one gets inspected and stamped.
The train companies don't want to have to check tickets frequently
enough to prevent this. So they just don't sell period returns at all
where they can help it.

d January 19th 06 10:04 AM

Return ticket dates
 
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know why I can't buy a return ticket between Thornton
Heath and Gatwick returning on a different date from when I start out?


For the same reason you can't buy three piece suites in McDonalds ;)

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Robert Stevens January 19th 06 03:05 PM

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Be glad you don't have to use Farringdon & High Holborn.
You can get savers form City thameslink and Kings Cross TL but not from
Farringdon.

They don't do train tickets (well a few).

tim \(moved to sweden\) January 19th 06 05:32 PM

Return ticket dates
 

"asdf" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:42:23 +0100, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:

Does anyone know why I can't buy a return ticket between Thornton
Heath and Gatwick returning on a different date from when I start out?


For no more reason than, because you can't.

More specifically, because an open period return does not
exist for that journey (but TBH I don't think that tells you
any more than the first line that I wrote)


Unless tickets are checked often, daily commuters would be able to get
away with buying this type of ticket and re-using it every day, only
needing to buy a new one if the old one gets inspected and stamped.
The train companies don't want to have to check tickets frequently
enough to prevent this. So they just don't sell period returns at all
where they can help it.


This may be the reason why they don't sell them.

It isn't the reason why he can't buy one :-)

tim



Dave Newt January 20th 06 08:44 PM

Return ticket dates
 
David Cantrell wrote:
Does anyone know why I can't buy a return ticket between Thornton
Heath and Gatwick returning on a different date from when I start out?


London to Hertford is the same.

Plus the HL journey is about two quid more than LH.

I have to have the same conversation every time though:

"Boundary of Zone 3 to Hertford East please"

"Is that a single or return?"

"Oh, if you sell returns, I'll have one please."

"No, we don't"

"OK, I think I'll have a single then"

Keith Raeburn January 20th 06 08:51 PM

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what is the lower disatance limit for Network AwayBreaks then?


Zappomatic January 23rd 06 04:16 PM

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Barry Salter wrote:
On 20 Jan 2006 13:51:04 -0800, "Keith Raeburn"
wrote:

what is the lower disatance limit for Network AwayBreaks then?


In general, about 50 miles. Having said that, Southern and South West
Trains, Chiltern and WAGN no longer offer Network Awaybreaks, with their
period returns being Savers.

HTH,

Barry


When did South West TRains discontinue them? I had one at the end of
December.


tim \(moved to sweden\) January 23rd 06 05:34 PM

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"Zappomatic" wrote in message
ups.com...

Barry Salter wrote:
On 20 Jan 2006 13:51:04 -0800, "Keith Raeburn"
wrote:

what is the lower disatance limit for Network AwayBreaks then?


In general, about 50 miles. Having said that, Southern and South West
Trains, Chiltern and WAGN no longer offer Network Awaybreaks, with their
period returns being Savers.

HTH,

Barry


When did South West TRains discontinue them? I had one at the end of
December.


Depends on the destination I think.

I have been denied them to/from STN since October I think,
I can still buy them to/from LGW.

tim





Arthur Figgis January 23rd 06 09:34 PM

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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:39:35 +0000, Barry Salter
wrote:

On 20 Jan 2006 13:51:04 -0800, "Keith Raeburn"
wrote:

what is the lower disatance limit for Network AwayBreaks then?


In general, about 50 miles. Having said that, Southern and South West
Trains, Chiltern and WAGN no longer offer Network Awaybreaks, with their
period returns being Savers.


A friend ran into this over the new year (and I posted to uk.railway).

On December 31 SWT at Twickenham apparently claimed they no longer
sold returns to Bedford, only two singles. Fortunately Thameslink at
Bedford said this was nonsense, and upgraded the single to a return.
Southern happily sold me a Network Away Break to Bedford on the same
day - and I'm told the SWT machines now do offer them as well.

I suppose Network Away Break vs Saver is a less extreme price increase
than having to get two singles - which was enough to make the chap I
know get hold of a car and drive home for Christmas, rather than take
the train.


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

David Cantrell January 28th 06 09:00 PM

Return ticket dates
 
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:21:43 +0000, asdf
said:

Unless tickets are checked often, daily commuters would be able to get
away with buying this type of ticket and re-using it every day, only
needing to buy a new one if the old one gets inspected and stamped.
The train companies don't want to have to check tickets frequently
enough to prevent this. So they just don't sell period returns at all
where they can help it.


While I can understand this in the general case, it does seem a bit
stupid to not make a special case for the airports. More people, I am
absolutely certain, travel to the airport and come back a few days
later than commute daily to and from the airport.

Oh, wait. Two singles cost more than a return. NOW it makes sense.
And they don't even need to worry about me driving there instead
because airport parkingcos make Shylock look good.

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David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david


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