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Guy Fawkes wrote:
Kev wrote:

Had a run in with a nice employee of Arriva this morning who called me
a ****ing moron because I didn't know that PSV drivers aren't allowed
to reverse. Now I am not an expert on the law regarding PSV drivers so
can somebody confirm that it is a fact that they are not allowed to
reverse. Seems bonkers to me.
Whether thay can or can't reverse I take it that they can't call
members of the public ****ing morons or threaten to punch them in the
face.

Kevin




on whose side of the road was the obstruction that prevented you from
passing each other in the carriageway?

I think the OP answered that in previous posts. The bus was overtaking a
line of parked cars, using the OP's lane. So the obstruction was on the
bus driver's side.

Hence the OP getting miffed when the bus driver went past what the OP
thought was a useable gap in the parked cars and continued to the point
where neither vehicle could go further.

At around that time, the OP stalled - with the bus driver possibly
taking his immobility as an indicator that the OP was waiting for the
bus to reverse, rather than reverse himself.

The OP then reversed but, when the bus driver drew level, said bus
driver did say norty words to the OP and stated that buses aren't
allowed to reverse.

Which raised the question, "Are they allowed?"

Which raised the point as to whether they are legally allowed to reverse
on the public highway, wehn carrying passengers and not following the
instructions of a police officer, etc. Their employers tend to rather
insist that they must not do it.

I only drive the things. I don't believe it to be illegal. I happily do
it if the situation warrants - eg the other guy has a trailer, is
driving something bigger, is crap at reversing, etc.

But I suppose that I should know whether it was actually illegal, or not.

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Which raised the point as to whether they are legally allowed to reverse
on the public highway, wehn carrying passengers and not following the
instructions of a police officer, etc. Their employers tend to rather
insist that they must not do it.

I only drive the things. I don't believe it to be illegal. I happily do
it if the situation warrants - eg the other guy has a trailer, is
driving something bigger, is crap at reversing, etc.

But I suppose that I should know whether it was actually illegal, or
not.


The impression I have got from this thread is that it is probably not
forbidden by law, but is a rule imposed by many bus companies.
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In article , =?UTF-
8?B?UGFsaW5kcuKYu21l?= writes

Which raised the point as to whether they are legally allowed to reverse
on the public highway, wehn carrying passengers and not following the
instructions of a police officer, etc. Their employers tend to rather
insist that they must not do it.

I only drive the things. I don't believe it to be illegal. I happily do
it if the situation warrants - eg the other guy has a trailer, is
driving something bigger, is crap at reversing, etc.

But I suppose that I should know whether it was actually illegal, or
not.



The impression I have got from this thread is that it is probably not
forbidden by law, but is a rule imposed by many bus companies.




Yep, I would agree. But buses have been around a long time and there
could be some law about not reversing horse-drawn ones, dating back to
the Roman Occupation - or something similar - that never has been
repealed. It might only be lawful to back the thing under the
supervision of a postiglione..

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