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Shirley Concorde is only half British?

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"Chris Read" wrote in message
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Shirley Concorde is only half British?

Well make sure you vote for the British half rather the French half, then
;-)

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Chris Read wrote:
Shirley Concorde is only half British?

The engines were British designed and built.

The rest (with the exception of the name), which is just the container
the engines come in, was jointly designed and built with the French.

The name was 100% designed and built by the French.

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John Rowland wrote:

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Ah, thanks for reminding me. That's one [1] vote for Concorde, then :)

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Chris Read wrote:

Shirley Concorde is only half British?

IIRC the structural design had a lot of Aerospatiale input, but the
basic configuration - ogival delta wing and all - was pretty much
straight Bristol. The pity was that the build wasn't the same size as
the original 6-Olympii Bristol design. That might have been a better
commercial proposition.

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"Martin Underwood" a@b wrote:


"Chris Read" wrote in message

Shirley Concorde is only half British?

Well make sure you vote for the British half rather the French half, then
;-)


I'm voting for David & Posh's Tube map anyway ;-)

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(Andrew Robert Breen) wrote:

In article ,
Chris Read wrote:

Shirley Concorde is only half British?

IIRC the structural design had a lot of Aerospatiale input, but the
basic configuration - ogival delta wing and all - was pretty much
straight Bristol. The pity was that the build wasn't the same size as
the original 6-Olympii Bristol design. That might have been a better
commercial proposition.


I seem to remember (from a promo film in 1962!) that the name was actually a
British suggestion.

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John Rowland wrote:
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Personally, I can't get excited about a quest for a Great British Design
where one of the three finalists is an Anglo-French design that wasn't
particularly successful but looked nice. If an LU-related design is to
be chosen, it ought to be Edward Johnston's Underground typeface, but
instead we had the derivative Verdana font on the original list.

I've voted for the Spitfire - greater design skill, greater impact on
British life.
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Once upon a time -- around about 3/6/06 19:10 --
possibly wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/cultureshow/designquest/vote/

Personally, I can't get excited about a quest for a Great British Design
where one of the three finalists is an Anglo-French design that wasn't
particularly successful but looked nice.
It's a design competition, looking nice is the whole point.

And as much as I love the Tube, Concorde's design is one of the most amazing
designs ever. I have to vote for her.


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Rev. CMOT TMPV wrote:
Once upon a time -- around about 3/6/06 19:10 --
possibly wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/cultureshow/designquest/vote/

Personally, I can't get excited about a quest for a Great British
Design where one of the three finalists is an Anglo-French design
that wasn't particularly successful but looked nice.
It's a design competition, looking nice is the whole point.

Er, no. That's not the whole point of "design".

And as much as I love the Tube, Concorde's design is one of the
most amazing designs ever. I have to vote for her.

Hmm. Most fatalities per million flights of any recent airliner.
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On 6 Mar 2006 12:15:29 -0800, "allan tracy"
wrote:


Chris Read wrote:
Shirley Concorde is only half British?

The engines were British designed and built.

The rest (with the exception of the name), which is just the container
the engines come in, was jointly designed and built with the French.

The name was 100% designed and built by the French.

87.5% of the name was jointly designed and built; the final 12.5% was
100% added by the French :)

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Richard J. wrote:
Rev. CMOT TMPV wrote:
It's a design competition, looking nice is the whole point.

Er, no. That's not the whole point of "design".

Richard's right. Proper design is about functionality as much as
anything else. "Looking nice" is styling and image. You do have to
design your style, though!

PhilD

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Richard J. wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/cultureshow/designquest/vote/

Personally, I can't get excited about a quest for a Great British Design
where one of the three finalists is an Anglo-French design that wasn't
particularly successful but looked nice. If an LU-related design is to
be chosen, it ought to be Edward Johnston's Underground typeface, but
instead we had the derivative Verdana font on the original list.

I've voted for the Spitfire - greater design skill, greater impact on
British life.

And RJ Mitchell, the Spitfire's designer, was an apprentice with Loco
builders Kerr Stuart :-)

Andy

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In article , John Rowland
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Ah, so *that's* why Radio Cambridgeshire asked me to be on their morning
show at 10 minutes notice last Friday.

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