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[email protected] March 10th 06 04:20 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4794122.stm

This BBC story, about the Paris metro map drawn by Harry Beck being
exhibited in the new LT Museum, also has a small crop of the Tube map -
which looks rather strange! Does anyone know what this map is/was used
for, and if there is a full-size version available?


Timothy Baldwin March 10th 06 06:11 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
In message .com,
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4794122.stm

This BBC story, about the Paris metro map drawn by Harry Beck being
exhibited in the new LT Museum, also has a small crop of the Tube map -
which looks rather strange! Does anyone know what this map is/was used
for, and if there is a full-size version available?


It's the 2012 version:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...-(inc-Work.jpg
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...c%20Works).jpg

The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in 2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf

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Paul Terry March 10th 06 06:58 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
In message , Timothy Baldwin
writes

The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in 2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


Crossrail to Richmond and Kingston by 2016? Oh, come on now! :)

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Colin March 10th 06 07:28 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
...
In message , Timothy Baldwin
writes

The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in
2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


Crossrail to Richmond and Kingston by 2016? Oh, come on now! :)

--
Paul Terry


Indeed - but this map predates the decision to drop the Kingston Crossrail
branch from the proposal.



M J Forbes March 11th 06 08:35 AM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in
2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


And also includes the West London Transit system, which brings the total
number of stations in Acton to 8 (North, South, East, West, Central, Town,
Vale, and just plain "Acton"). Not bad, considering it's about a quarter of
the size of Portsmouth (rough guess by playing with a map and a ruler),
which has 4 ....



James Farrar March 11th 06 10:27 AM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:35:58 -0000, "M J Forbes"
wrote:

The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in
2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


And also includes the West London Transit system, which brings the total
number of stations in Acton to 8 (North, South, East, West, Central, Town,
Vale, and just plain "Acton").


Nine; Acton Main Line is not shown.

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M J Forbes March 11th 06 10:33 AM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 

"James Farrar" wrote in message
...

Nine; Acton Main Line is not shown.


Damn. Knew I'd forgotten one.



John Rowland March 11th 06 12:31 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 

"James Farrar" wrote in message
...

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


Acton Main Line is not shown.


Will Crossrail not stop there?



Richard J. March 11th 06 02:09 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
John Rowland wrote:
"James Farrar" wrote in message
...

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


Acton Main Line is not shown.


Will Crossrail not stop there?


The current plan is to stop there, but I seem to remember that at one
stage, when the two western branches were to Heathrow and Kingston,
various stations were omitted from Crossrail's plan, including Acton
Main Line and St Margarets. The TfL map was drawn up at that time.
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Brian Watson March 11th 06 05:51 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 

"M J Forbes" wrote in message
...
The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in
2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


And also includes the West London Transit system, which brings the total
number of stations in Acton to 8 (North, South, East, West, Central, Town,
Vale, and just plain "Acton"). Not bad, considering it's about a quarter
of the size of Portsmouth (rough guess by playing with a map and a ruler),
which has 4 ....


Also, I know we're getting the Olympics but there looks like a HUGE amount
of rail track is to be added east of the Metrollops.

Some of it'll be over old routes, I suppose, but that which is proposed
around Ilford and Barking looks likely to cause some major disturbance
whether it goes on stilts or cut 'n cover.

--
Brian



Paul Corfield March 11th 06 06:51 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:51:03 -0000, "Brian Watson"
wrote:


"M J Forbes" wrote in message
...
The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in
2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf


And also includes the West London Transit system, which brings the total
number of stations in Acton to 8 (North, South, East, West, Central, Town,
Vale, and just plain "Acton"). Not bad, considering it's about a quarter
of the size of Portsmouth (rough guess by playing with a map and a ruler),
which has 4 ....


Also, I know we're getting the Olympics but there looks like a HUGE amount
of rail track is to be added east of the Metrollops.

Some of it'll be over old routes, I suppose, but that which is proposed
around Ilford and Barking looks likely to cause some major disturbance
whether it goes on stilts or cut 'n cover.


The "transit" schemes were possibly going to be light rail but the
latest consultation documents show them as bus routes with fairly high
levels of segregation. Therefore no need for tunnels or stilts.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Brian Watson March 12th 06 06:59 AM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:51:03 -0000, "Brian Watson"
wrote:

... I know we're getting the Olympics but there looks like a HUGE amount
of rail track is to be added east of the Metrollops.

Some of it'll be over old routes, I suppose, but that which is proposed
around Ilford and Barking looks likely to cause some major disturbance
whether it goes on stilts or cut 'n cover.


The "transit" schemes were possibly going to be light rail but the
latest consultation documents show them as bus routes with fairly high
levels of segregation. Therefore no need for tunnels or stilts.


Ah, that makes much more sense, though it will increase journey times
considerably even with Ken's finest efforts of Red Lining the routes.

--
Brian



Tuggers March 13th 06 12:04 AM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 

Is this the end of the NLL running to North Woolwich?



R.C. Payne March 13th 06 01:55 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
THC wrote:
M J Forbes wrote:
The rearrangement around Paddingtion is for Crossrail which appears in
2016:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...t-onthemap.pdf

And also includes the West London Transit system, which brings the total
number of stations in Acton to 8 (North, South, East, West, Central, Town,
Vale, and just plain "Acton"). Not bad, considering it's about a quarter of
the size of Portsmouth (rough guess by playing with a map and a ruler),
which has 4 ....


Greater Acton (for want of a better name for it because great it ain't)
and surrounding areas served by these stations probably has as many
people within its range (i.e. large chunks of LB Ealing, LB Hammersmith
& Fulham, parts of LB Brent and LB Hounslow) as Portsmouth, which had
187,000 souls at the 2001 census. You also have to factor in Acton's
proximity to two of the largest net employment hubs in the country;
those in LB Hillingdon (Heathrow Airport and supply chain/ancillary
industry) and LB Hammersmith and Fulham (e.g. BBC and agglomerative
media industries, Westfield development at White City) and its location
on key radial travel routes (Central, Piccadilly, District lines) to
understand why it is so well served for rail-based public transport.
Anyway, it has only six stations ATM, not that I'm splitting hairs or
anything.

Whereas AIUI Portsmouth is at the "end of the line" and of no
particular strategic importance in the current clime. Nor is it home
to several of the ruling administration's favourite MPs, as is the part
of West London you describe. Umm, hold on, we may be onto something
here... ;-)


I can't help but feel that you are doing Pompey a dis-service. It
hasn't got much, but what it has got is of strategic importance, given
that a substantial protion of our navy is based there. Strategic is
about the only thing it has got.

Robin

Paul Corfield March 13th 06 04:51 PM

Curious Tube map on BBC story
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:04:45 -0000, "Tuggers"
wrote:


Is this the end of the NLL running to North Woolwich?


Closure proceedings are under way now. There are posters all over the
place asking for comments to go back to the DfT as part of the official
process for closing the line south of Stratford. If granted the DLR will
take over that section. Personally I think it is a good idea provided
that the DLR definitely goes ahead and there is the much promised
improvement to the rest of the North London Line (and associated lines).
--
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