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kytelly April 4th 06 09:47 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
The other weekend I was up at KX and was suprised too see the new steps
replacing the old ones in front of WH Smiths still haven't opened.
They look completely finished behind the hoarding so is the idea to
open everything in a big bang rather than incrementally?


jb April 11th 06 10:39 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 

kytelly wrote:
The other weekend I was up at KX and was suprised too see the new steps
replacing the old ones in front of WH Smiths still haven't opened.
They look completely finished behind the hoarding so is the idea to
open everything in a big bang rather than incrementally?


I'm surprised there has been no comment on this post so far. I would
like to think that all sorts of frenzied activity is going on behind
the scenes at KX but to us, the public, the works seem to be
progressing at a snail's pace. The new stairs seem to have been on the
point of opening for months but presumably cannot do so until the
temporary ticket offices in front of them are decommissioned and
removed, and presumably that can't happen until the new ticket offices
down in the tube hall are ready. The only signs of recent progress here
are that the wraps have come off the counters and the chip 'n pin
machines within the last week.

Does anybody have any ideas regarding tentative opening dates of the
stairs and the western ticket hall?


John B April 11th 06 12:23 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
jb wrote:
The other weekend I was up at KX and was suprised too see the new steps
replacing the old ones in front of WH Smiths still haven't opened.
They look completely finished behind the hoarding so is the idea to
open everything in a big bang rather than incrementally?


I'm surprised there has been no comment on this post so far. I would
like to think that all sorts of frenzied activity is going on behind
the scenes at KX but to us, the public, the works seem to be
progressing at a snail's pace. The new stairs seem to have been on the
point of opening for months but presumably cannot do so until the
temporary ticket offices in front of them are decommissioned and
removed, and presumably that can't happen until the new ticket offices
down in the tube hall are ready. The only signs of recent progress here
are that the wraps have come off the counters and the chip 'n pin
machines within the last week.

Does anybody have any ideas regarding tentative opening dates of the
stairs and the western ticket hall?


The Western Ticket Hall looks finished - you can see it, apparently
fully fitted out, through the hoardings at the front of St Pancras.
However, LUL seem to have stopped mentioning an April date for WTH
opening, which suggests it's slipped for Mysterious And Bizarre
Reasons.

If anyone does have a date, it'd be nice to hear it...!

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org


Robin Mayes April 11th 06 02:06 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
The western ticket hall should be opening in about 4 weeks, dependant on
final hand-over and approvals.



Edward Sloley April 11th 06 02:51 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
John B wrote:
The Western Ticket Hall looks finished - you can see it, apparently
fully fitted out, through the hoardings at the front of St Pancras.
However, LUL seem to have stopped mentioning an April date for WTH
opening, which suggests it's slipped for Mysterious And Bizarre
Reasons.

If anyone does have a date, it'd be nice to hear it...!


Passing by the Western Ticket Hall I noticed a few letters on the
scaffolding regarding the length of time for which Sloane Scaffolding
are allowed to maintain possession of it. Try this:
http://edwardsloley7774.fotopic.net/p27771450.html (apologies for the
inconvenient size)

Edward Sloley April 11th 06 03:13 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
John B wrote:
The Western Ticket Hall looks finished - you can see it, apparently
fully fitted out, through the hoardings at the front of St Pancras.
However, LUL seem to have stopped mentioning an April date for WTH
opening, which suggests it's slipped for Mysterious And Bizarre
Reasons.

If anyone does have a date, it'd be nice to hear it...!


Passing by the Western Ticket Hall I noticed a few letters on the
scaffolding regarding the length of time for which Sloane Scaffolding
are allowed to maintain possession of it. Try this:
http://edwardsloley7774.fotopic.net/p27771450.html (apologies for the
inconvenient size)

EDIT: have just altered the size of the pics

Dave Arquati April 11th 06 05:28 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
jb wrote:
kytelly wrote:
The other weekend I was up at KX and was suprised too see the new steps
replacing the old ones in front of WH Smiths still haven't opened.
They look completely finished behind the hoarding so is the idea to
open everything in a big bang rather than incrementally?


I'm surprised there has been no comment on this post so far. I would
like to think that all sorts of frenzied activity is going on behind
the scenes at KX but to us, the public, the works seem to be
progressing at a snail's pace. The new stairs seem to have been on the
point of opening for months but presumably cannot do so until the
temporary ticket offices in front of them are decommissioned and
removed, and presumably that can't happen until the new ticket offices
down in the tube hall are ready. The only signs of recent progress here
are that the wraps have come off the counters and the chip 'n pin
machines within the last week.


I got rather confused heading to St Pancras at the weekend having not
been through it for a while - got off the Tube at KX and got to the
surface, and instinctively followed the first sign I saw pointing
towards St Pancras to the left - and walked straight into a dead end
around the corner (along with several other people).

I'd gotten used to following the signs as the route changed from time to
time. I presumed that the fact that the new sign pointed in that
direction meant that route would be opening soon (and replacing the
current exit to St Pancras)...

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Colin Rosenstiel April 11th 06 08:16 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
In article ,
(Robin Mayes) wrote:

The western ticket hall should be opening in about 4 weeks, dependant
on final hand-over and approvals.


When will the old tube ticket hall be replaced underground so the
inaccessible surface nonsense can be removed?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Paul Oter April 11th 06 10:35 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Robin Mayes) wrote:

The western ticket hall should be opening in about 4 weeks, dependant
on final hand-over and approvals.


When will the old tube ticket hall be replaced underground so the
inaccessible surface nonsense can be removed?


Which ticket hall (and what surface nonsense) do you mean?

PaulO


Colin Rosenstiel April 12th 06 01:09 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
In article . com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Robin Mayes) wrote:

The western ticket hall should be opening in about 4 weeks,
dependant on final hand-over and approvals.


When will the old tube ticket hall be replaced underground so the
inaccessible surface nonsense can be removed?


Which ticket hall (and what surface nonsense) do you mean?


The now expanded one at the top of the Piccadilly/Northern and Victoria
Line escalators. There are what look like incipient ticket windows
there, at the higher of two levels separated by steps from the original
ticket office level, but no sign of further recent progress.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

kytelly April 12th 06 10:40 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
While we are at it, are they any plans to upgrade the station at the
bottom of the escalators? Where we have the Picc, Northern and Victoria
passageways all meeting, there are loads of conflicting flows of
passengers. There doesnt seem to be signs of any improvement around
here though.


jb May 4th 06 11:45 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
Well, we're a month further on and there's still little if any visible
progress. The new tube hall ticket windows now have blinds saying
"closed" and you can just see chairs inside, still in their plastic
wraps. And the chip 'n pin machines have been covered up again.

The only info available says the new ticket halls will open "sometime
this year". Someone somewhere must have a tentative date.


Sky Rider May 7th 06 08:13 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
Grrrr! Call me a pessimist, 'sometime this year' could technically mean
this Christmas. Not that it necessarily will be - but what on earth
seems to be taking them so long?
Oh, and you know those newsletters that LUL release (the those that
generalise intended progress over the next 6 months)? The latest one
covers the period Nov 05-Apr 06, which is now finished, and at the
moment there's no sign of an updated one. Not to mention that the
posters that someone else mentioned earlier (re. Slaone Scaffolding) are
*still* there.

Paul Oter May 7th 06 09:26 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
Sky Rider wrote:
Grrrr! Call me a pessimist, 'sometime this year' could technically mean
this Christmas. Not that it necessarily will be - but what on earth
seems to be taking them so long?


Perhaps they're waiting for work on the Met line platforms to be
finished. I use these every day and although the rate of change is
glacial (presumably they can only work at weekends) these are slowly
getting refurbished. For example, the wall opposite the eastbound
platform was completely replastered and repainted a couple of weekends
ago.

I would imagine that since the western ticket hall includes new
escalators down to the Met line platforms the refurbishment of the
platforms is considered part of the same project.

(Obviously, they'll have to wait until the new ticket hall is open
before they can remove the old ticket windows and refurbish the area
between them and the current exit.)

PaulO


jb May 23rd 06 03:50 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
Signs of progress at last:

1. The site fencing around the new stairs at street level has been
removed, and replaced with temporary barriers
2. There are people working in what appears to be the new control room
in the tube ticket hall (of course they could be IT staff instaling or
testing the system)
3. The contractor's hoardings in the met/circle thoroughfare have been
partially removed, revealing a flight of steps down from the new
western ticket hall
4. Similar hoardings blocking off the westernmost cross passage beween
the two met line platforms have also been taken down, and replaced with
temporary fencing.
5. The passage between the tube ticket hall and the western ticket hall
is now virtually clear.

All this suggests that some form of opening is imminent, although given
the track record of this project it could well stay as it is for
several months yet - let's keep our fingers crossed.


Rob May 23rd 06 03:53 PM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 
I noticed a sign on the station yesterday saying from 28th May walking
routes around the station would change substantially. Didnt have time
to read the details

Rob


[email protected] May 25th 06 07:36 AM

KX TUBE - replacement steps opening schedule?
 

Rob wrote:
I noticed a sign on the station yesterday saying from 28th May walking
routes around the station would change substantially. Didnt have time
to read the details

Rob


This received from TfL this morning:

From Sunday 28 May 2006 a number of changes need to be made to walking

routes and interchanges between the Tube, King's Cross and St. Pancras
mainline stations, to assist the redevelopment of King's Cross St.
Pancras Underground station.


The existing access to the Metropolitan, Circle, Hammersmith & City
lines will close.

Access to the Underground from St. Pancras and King's Cross platforms
9, 10 and 11 will be via the new ticket hall entrance located on
Pancras Road. You will need to walk southbound down the right hand side
of Pancras Road into the Underground.

The temporary ticket office on King's Cross station forecourt will
close and the new ticket office in the Underground will open.

A new entrance to the Underground on the forecourt of King's Cross
will open and the entrance by the Great Northern Hotel will close.

Please look out for directional signs to help you while these changes
are implemented

============

Cheers,

Simon



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