KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

The new Western Ticket Hall at King's Cross St Pancras is now open,
with three new entrances: outside King's Cross, on the west side of St
Pancras Road, and a little further west along Euston Road. Two former
street entrances outside King's Cross have closed.

Access to the Met/Circle/H+C is now via the Western Ticket Hall only.

I'll be using this every working day. But here are a few initial
observations:

I was disappointed to see that there are no escalators down into the
new ticket hall, nor are there any down to the Met line platforms.
Although there appear to be lifts I expect lots of people will continue
to struggle up and down the steps with their luggage.

There is some misleading signposting in the Western ticket hall, with
some signs for "St Pancras" pointing west rather than east. Presumably
the signposting refers to the

On the Circle/H+C line, although the entrance to the platforms has
moved to the western end, eastbound trains continue to stop at the
eastern end. Since Circle/H+C trains are much shorter than the platform
a lot of people will find themselves having to walk along the platform
to the last car when the train stops.

The "old" ticket hall is now much more congested than before now that
the ticket counters are open.

PaulO

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

Paul Oter wrote:
The new Western Ticket Hall at King's Cross St Pancras is now open,
with three new entrances: outside King's Cross, on the west side of St
Pancras Road, and a little further west along Euston Road. Two former
street entrances outside King's Cross have closed.

Access to the Met/Circle/H+C is now via the Western Ticket Hall only.

I'll be using this every working day. But here are a few initial
observations:

I was disappointed to see that there are no escalators down into the
new ticket hall, nor are there any down to the Met line platforms.
Although there appear to be lifts I expect lots of people will continue
to struggle up and down the steps with their luggage.

There is some misleading signposting in the Western ticket hall, with
some signs for "St Pancras" pointing west rather than east. Presumably
the signposting refers to the

(I meant) Presumably ths signposting will make more sense when the
Eurostar station is open.

PaulO

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

Paul Oter wrote:


Paul Oter wrote:
The new Western Ticket Hall at King's Cross St Pancras is now open,
with three new entrances: outside King's Cross, on the west side of St
Pancras Road, and a little further west along Euston Road. Two former
street entrances outside King's Cross have closed.

Access to the Met/Circle/H+C is now via the Western Ticket Hall only.

I'll be using this every working day. But here are a few initial
observations:

I was disappointed to see that there are no escalators down into the
new ticket hall, nor are there any down to the Met line platforms.
Although there appear to be lifts I expect lots of people will continue
to struggle up and down the steps with their luggage.

There is some misleading signposting in the Western ticket hall, with
some signs for "St Pancras" pointing west rather than east. Presumably
the signposting refers to the

(I meant) Presumably ths signposting will make more sense when the
Eurostar station is open.

Don't these signs currently direct people via a ramp to street level?

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

On 29 May 2006 13:07:01 -0700, "Paul Oter"
wrote:

The new Western Ticket Hall at King's Cross St Pancras is now open,
with three new entrances: outside King's Cross, on the west side of St
Pancras Road, and a little further west along Euston Road. Two former
street entrances outside King's Cross have closed.

Access to the Met/Circle/H+C is now via the Western Ticket Hall only.

I'll be using this every working day. But here are a few initial
observations:

I was disappointed to see that there are no escalators down into the
new ticket hall, nor are there any down to the Met line platforms.
Although there appear to be lifts I expect lots of people will continue
to struggle up and down the steps with their luggage.

It's a nice large ticket hall, but causes people entering from the
Euston Road a long walk to the lift, which is in the north-western
corner -- almost a complete circuit.

The lift up from the platform was *already* out of order yesterday
evening.

There is some misleading signposting in the Western ticket hall, with
some signs for "St Pancras" pointing west rather than east. Presumably
the signposting refers to the

Equally steps down to the ticket hall in the south-eastern corner are
signposted for the Northern, Piccadilly and Victoria lines, with no
mention of the other lines.

On the Circle/H+C line, although the entrance to the platforms has
moved to the western end, eastbound trains continue to stop at the
eastern end. Since Circle/H+C trains are much shorter than the platform
a lot of people will find themselves having to walk along the platform
to the last car when the train stops.

All westbound trains now stop at the west end of the platform, which
narrows towards the end. Previously Circle and H&C trains stopped at
monitors two cars short of the end. One wonders why such monitors were
not installed on the eastbound.

The "old" ticket hall is now much more congested than before now that
the ticket counters are open.

PaulO

Yesterday it didn't help that the ticket office in the Western ticket
hall was not in use.

Overall an improvement on what went before, but a lot of work remains.
Presumably this explains why the Met line through Kings Cross wiil be
closed four more times up to September.

Regards,

Clive R Robertson
--
Clive R Robertson -- AS/400 Programmer.

Webmaster of http://www.osterleypark.org.uk/ -- this describes
a beautiful National Trust property in West London.

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

In article .com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

The "old" ticket hall is now much more congested than before now that
the ticket counters are open.

Much to my amazement the new ticket office is no larger than the old,
with the same number (3) of large ticket machines, the only ones to top
up Oyster on. Result long queues at 11:15 this morning just to top up.
When is Web top-up going to be more flexible?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:


The "old" ticket hall is now much more congested than before now that
the ticket counters are open.


Much to my amazement the new ticket office is no larger than the old,
with the same number (3) of large ticket machines, the only ones to top
up Oyster on. Result long queues at 11:15 this morning just to top up.
When is Web top-up going to be more flexible?

Presumably this shortage is only temporary, until the refurb of existing
office is completed... and then there will be the Northern one in a few
years.
AND
who buys tickets now?

Jim Chisholm

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

In article , (J.
Chisholm) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

The "old" ticket hall is now much more congested than before now
that the ticket counters are open.

Much to my amazement the new ticket office is no larger than the
old, with the same number (3) of large ticket machines, the only
ones to top up Oyster on. Result long queues at 11:15 this morning
just to top up. When is Web top-up going to be more flexible?

Presumably this shortage is only temporary, until the refurb of
existing office is completed...

Not that it would appear. If you're coming of a Cambridge train and
going to the Victoria Line the others are way out of the way.

and then there will be the Northern
one in a few years. AND who buys tickets now?

People who begrudge having to pay LU in advance, perhaps?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (J.
Chisholm) wrote:
[snip]
who buys tickets now?

People who begrudge having to pay LU in advance, perhaps?

But who most likely are happy to provide their employers with a week's
or a month's labour before seeing anything for it?

--
Larry Lard
Replies to group please

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

On Tue, 30 May 2006 12:05 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article .com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

The "old" ticket hall is now much more congested than before now that
the ticket counters are open.

Much to my amazement the new ticket office is no larger than the old,
with the same number (3) of large ticket machines, the only ones to top
up Oyster on. Result long queues at 11:15 this morning just to top up.
When is Web top-up going to be more flexible?

Can you advise how many ticket office machines there are ?
--
Stuart Johnson in Peterhead, Scotland
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who buys tickets now (was KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open)
 

"J. Chisholm" wrote in news:e5hc1v$jab$1
@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk:

who buys tickets now?

I did today. I bought a travelcard from a tube station. I didnt buy
online because I normally travel on National Rail so can't buy online.

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

J. Chisholm wrote:
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:


The "old" ticket hall is now much more congested than before now that
the ticket counters are open.


Much to my amazement the new ticket office is no larger than the old,
with the same number (3) of large ticket machines, the only ones to top
up Oyster on. Result long queues at 11:15 this morning just to top up.
When is Web top-up going to be more flexible?

Presumably this shortage is only temporary, until the refurb of existing
office is completed.

Which existing office? I presume the Met ticket office at platform
level has closed for ever now.

AND
who buys tickets now?

Not me. But I do have to visit the ticket office near my place of work
every month or so to get "uncompleted" journeys on my pre-pay Oyster
sorted out.

PaulO

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

In article . com,
(Larry Lard) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (J.
Chisholm) wrote:
[snip]
who buys tickets now?

People who begrudge having to pay LU in advance, perhaps?

But who most likely are happy to provide their employers with a week's
or a month's labour before seeing anything for it?

My employer pays 2 weeks in arrears and two weeks in advance.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

Robin Mayes wrote:
Paul Oter wrote:


There is some misleading signposting in the Western ticket hall, with
some signs for "St Pancras" pointing west rather than east. ..
Presumably ths signposting will make more sense when the
Eurostar station is open.

Don't these signs currently direct people via a ramp to street level?

I didn't spot a ramp - where is that?

The signs I am referring to are near the ticket windows and point
people to the steps (and lift) at the western end of the new ticket
hall. Presumably these steps will one day provide access to the "new"
St Pancras station. However at the moment people who ascend these steps
wanting to catch MML trains have to walk back along an upper-level
walkway to the eastern end and out into St Pancras Road.

I daresay this will be fixed in due course.

PaulO

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

Paul Oter wrote:


Robin Mayes wrote:
Paul Oter wrote:


There is some misleading signposting in the Western ticket hall, with
some signs for "St Pancras" pointing west rather than east. ..
Presumably ths signposting will make more sense when the
Eurostar station is open.

Don't these signs currently direct people via a ramp to street level?

I didn't spot a ramp - where is that?

The signs I am referring to are near the ticket windows and point
people to the steps (and lift) at the western end of the new ticket
hall. Presumably these steps will one day provide access to the "new"
St Pancras station. However at the moment people who ascend these steps
wanting to catch MML trains have to walk back along an upper-level
walkway to the eastern end and out into St Pancras Road.

I thought it was a ramp once you got up those stairs, but it was a while ago
since I was last there whilst it was still being fitted out.

KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open
 

There is some misleading signposting in the Western ticket hall, with
some signs for "St Pancras" pointing west rather than east. ..
Presumably ths signposting will make more sense when the
Eurostar station is open.

Midland Mainline are due to relocate from the Eastern interim station soon,
aren't they? Does anyone have a date?

MML on the move at St. Pancras (Was KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open)
 

"Barry Salter" wrote in uk.transport.london:
On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:02:48 +0100, "John Salmon" wrote:

Midland Mainline are due to relocate from the Eastern interim station
soon,
aren't they? Does anyone have a date?

Well St Pancras is scheduled to be closed over the weekend of 15th July,
so my guess is that it'll either be that weekend or one shortly
afterwards.

Thanks. A check of
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe
shows trains using platforms 1 to 4 at St. Pancras from Monday 17th July, in
place of the current 10 to 13.
There are some stray trains in the system for the Saturday and Sunday
(15th/16th), but I think they can be ignored. MML terminate/start Luton on
those dates. ROTR doesn't mention St. Pancras for that weekend, but why
should it? (It's not Network Rail.)

MML on the move at St. Pancras (Was KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open)
 

John Salmon wrote:
"Barry Salter" wrote in uk.transport.london:
On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:02:48 +0100, "John Salmon" wrote:

Midland Mainline are due to relocate from the Eastern interim station
soon,
aren't they? Does anyone have a date?

Well St Pancras is scheduled to be closed over the weekend of 15th July,
so my guess is that it'll either be that weekend or one shortly
afterwards.

Thanks. A check of
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe
shows trains using platforms 1 to 4 at St. Pancras from Monday 17th July, in
place of the current 10 to 13.
There are some stray trains in the system for the Saturday and Sunday
(15th/16th), but I think they can be ignored. MML terminate/start Luton on
those dates. ROTR doesn't mention St. Pancras for that weekend, but why
should it? (It's not Network Rail.)

Does this mean that a new ticket hall etc. is ready on the western side
of the station, or will be people have to buy tickets in the current
area and walk through under the International platforms?

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

MML on the move at St. Pancras (Was KXSP Ticket Hall Now Open)
 

Dave Arquati wrote:
Does this mean that a new ticket hall etc. is ready on the western side
of the station, or will be people have to buy tickets in the current
area and walk through under the International platforms?
The latter will apply until this December, when MML's permanent
facilities on the western side (including its own ticket office) should
become ready for use.