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New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
Roland Perry wrote:
In message .com, at 04:21:56 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Sam Holloway remarked: I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left, came back, and continued the journey A house in Cambridge. Knock at door, circa 10pm "Excuse me, sir, but it seems that you have abandoned your journey. Please come with us, so we can put you on a train to Ely." Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). And they are usually quite fierce about cancelling the whole ticket if you fail to turn up at the origin [eg failing to do London-Paris on a London-Paris-New York ticket.] The only workaround appears to be to actually fly to the real origin on a separate ticket. It is still much cheaper to do so for some airlines, though. -- Stewart Brodie |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
In message gemini.j0g0ne000bswf01uc.stewart.brodie@ntlworld. com, at
14:33:28 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Stewart Brodie remarked: Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). And they are usually quite fierce about cancelling the whole ticket if you fail to turn up at the origin [eg failing to do London-Paris on a London-Paris-New York ticket.] The only workaround appears to be to actually fly to the real origin on a separate ticket. It is still much cheaper to do so for some airlines, though. Maybe we'll see people catching a train to Ely, just to come back on an offpeak travelcard to London, then return as far as Cambridge in the evening peak? -- Roland Perry |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
I read in a St Albans paper that you can get an unrestricted day return
to Elstree and Borehamwood, and then a zone 6 travelcard from there. Works out much cheaper than buying a full priced Travelcard from St Albans. Dont know if anyone can confirm this Rob Paul Oter wrote: New ticket restrictions have been announced with effect from next Monday to services which depart from King's Cross to Cambridge in the evening peak. This was expected but this is the first time I've seen a definitive announcement. According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006", from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate] between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday. In addition to this Network AwayBreaks and Saver tickets are not valid on services which depart from these services between 1730 and 1830 Monday to Friday." These restrictions apply to passengers returning from a variety of inner London stations to stations between Potters Bar to Waterbeach inclusive. The leaflet explicitly states that passengers returning to Ely and points north thereof are not affected. Similar restrictions have been introduced to Peterborough and on the Thameslink route to Bedford. PaulO |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
Roland Perry
Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). [...] The key word being 'attempted'. I know people who made 'open jaw' journeys like that on routes which don't offer sane one-way prices, but don't know of any successful surcharge. It would be a bit stupid to penalise one's customers for buying more than they use, as the seat can be sold again last-minute if there's still demand. |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:26:25 GMT, Sarah Brown
wrote: In article . com, Neil Williams wrote: That said, all this could lead to an interesting fares anomaly, in that an off-peak travelcard and a peak single back, or a SDR and an off-peak travelcard bought separately, may now be cheaper than the available through ticket. OK, how does one go about getting one of those Oyster things? Oyster cards have a very limited applicability to the issue under discussion. There is a limited amount of Pre-Pay acceptance on the FCC lines across zone 1 for Thameslink and Moorgate / KX - Finsbury Park for the Cambridge / Peterborough lines. The only other ticket in Oyster format would be a Travelcard based season which is not affected by the new restrictions. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
"John B" wrote in message oups.com... It seems a bit of a draconian restriction set for a surburban operator - the FGW rule where cheap tickets can only be used on slow trains (effectively also the case on the WCML with the Virgin/Silverlink split) is more reasonable. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org I see the BBC have a story about it - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5052494.stm As usual, it starts with the word 'commuter', which in the BBC seems to be synonymous with 'passenger' or 'traveller'. The TOC would no doubt argue that CDRs are not intended for regular commuter use. Paul |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
Roland Perry wrote: In message .com, at 14:17:31 on Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Paul Oter remarked: According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006", The new timetable starts then. from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate] between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday. Are Network Card discounted tickets still OK? Similar restrictions have been introduced to Peterborough and on the Thameslink route to Bedford. MML still accept off-peak Travelcards in the evening rush, so this may shift even more of the Luton/Bedford crowd off Thameslink and onto MML. According to the FCC leaflet - and the article on tonight's Evening Standard, the restrictions apply also on MML (and GNER). PaulO |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
PRAR wrote: DERWENT New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:04:28 +0100, Roland Perry In message .com, at 14:17:31 on Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Paul Oter remarked: According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006", The new timetable starts then. from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate] between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday. Is this only for out-boundary Travel Cards or can you really not use travel card for journeys suchas Moorgate - Finsbury Park? Journeys entirely within the travelcard area are not affected, it says... PaulO |
New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message .com, at 14:17:31 on Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Paul Oter remarked: According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006", The new timetable starts then. from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate] between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday. Are Network Card discounted tickets still OK? Similar restrictions have been introduced to Peterborough and on the Thameslink route to Bedford. MML still accept off-peak Travelcards in the evening rush, so this may shift even more of the Luton/Bedford crowd off Thameslink and onto MML. The leaflet is at http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...DL_Leaflet.pdf I can't see how they can make the restrictions stick in the case of trains which call at stations like Alexandria Palace or Mill Hill Broadway. CDRs are val;id for break of journey, and ODTCs are valid for multiple journeys. Journeys from Central London to these stations (or others in Zone C on the leaflet) are unrestricted in the evening peak, as aqre journeys from Zone C northwards - all you have to do is to break your journey at a Zone C station. Does it count as break of journey if you resume your journey on the same train? Alter4natively you could of course split tickets at a Zone C station, though your train both ways would have to call at the station where you split your ticket. Peter |
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