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d July 5th 06 07:40 PM

Bendy Buses & Fare Evasion
 
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Chris Read wrote:
In simple terms, the power
of the engine and efficiency of the brakes seem light years removed from
the
RM.



Why, Chris, do you regard this as an improvement?


F=MA.

Marc.




d July 5th 06 07:43 PM

Bendy Buses & Fare Evasion
 
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Dave Newt wrote:
wrote:
Chris Read wrote:
In simple terms, the power
of the engine and efficiency of the brakes seem light years removed
from the
RM.


Why, Chris, do you regard this as an improvement?


I'm guessing becuase of reasons stated in the previous 2 sentences that
you chose to snip:

"2. They make faster progress than the RM when on the move. This has
surprised me, but would anyone deny it is true? "


The reason I asked the question was, with the appalling standard of
driving of so many London bus drivers, who regard emergency braking and
Grand Prix-style accelerating as mandatory when stopping or starting,
the lesser braking / acceleration offered the better.


If you've ever been on a full RM trying to get up a hill from a standing
start, you'd know why having a more powerful engine is a good idea. Also,
when traffic starts to move off on a quickly-timed traffic signal, RMs would
have a nasty habit of crawling just enough to get to the light just after it
turned. Bendy busses seem to be able to accelerate a great deal better, and
still not throw people off their feet.

And if you're a pedestrian crossing the street, the improved brakes
certainly takes the edge off the red menace.

Marc.




d July 5th 06 07:44 PM

Bendy Buses & Fare Evasion
 
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Richard M Willis wrote:
"Jonathan Morris" wrote in message
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wrote:

The reason I asked the question was, with the appalling standard of
driving of so many London bus drivers, who regard emergency braking
and
Grand Prix-style accelerating as mandatory when stopping or starting,

Ah, so you've used the 63 then! A service with drivers that seem so
sick of their job, that throwing people around is the only thing that
gives them job satisfaction!


I'd rather have a lunatic driver than one who waits until every
last persun has sat down before starting off.


I hope and pray that you're not a bus driver! Why should the public
(some of whom are old and infirm) be subjected to violent acceleration
and braking? It is precisely BECAUSE of such inconsiderate driving that
I will not get up to move to the door of the bus UNTIL the bus is
stationary, and I don't care how much bell-ringing I have to do to
enure the door is still open by the time I get there.


Why *is* it that when I get up to let an OAP on one of the priority
seats,
they insist on walking all the way to the back of the (almost empty) bus,
taking about 3min to do so ?


A slight exaggeration methinks. And, I have yet to meet the bus driver
who dies not zoom off the very moment the doors are closed, whatever
the state of passengers' movements. You must have some remarkably
civilised drivers where you are if they even notice whether everyone is
seated before they move off!

If it's an almost empty bus, why do you use the priority seat in the
first place? I always go upstairs and leave as much place as possible
for those unable to use the stairs.

Similarly with people who run along the platform to get on the
train at a door distant from the one that they're near.


Possibly they are doing so to get away from you (sorry, couldn't resist
that one: no offence intended!)


So you'd go to the top of an almost-empty bus, and remain seated until the
bus comes to your stop, THEN get up and walk all the way off? Genius.


Richard [in SG19]


Marc.




Colin Rosenstiel July 7th 06 12:40 AM

Bendy Buses & Fare Evasion
 
In article ,
(d) wrote:

[RMs]
Try using one in a wheelchair, and then let us know just how
accessible it is.


Are you aware that only 5% of people with disabilities are wheelchair
users?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

John B July 7th 06 08:48 AM

Bendy Buses & Fare Evasion
 
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
[RMs]
Try using one in a wheelchair, and then let us know just how
accessible it is.


Are you aware that only 5% of people with disabilities are wheelchair
users?


True, but I suspect they're also not easy to use if you have trouble
standing, climbing, gripping onto things or seeing.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org



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