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THC September 7th 06 01:47 PM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
I note from the TfL 2010 map the change to the name of Shepherd's Bush
H&C station to Shepherd's Bush Market, which IMO is a very sensible
development to reflect the distinct nature of the surrounding area and
also the separateness from the Central/"London Overground" (still feels
weird saying that!) station at the other end of Shepherd's Bush Green.

On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick. In an age where connectivity
is apparently all I can't help but feel that this passes up a great
chance to publicly embed a new H&C/Central line interchange by
referring to the new station as "White City", even if the connection
'twixt the two stations is on-street as in the case of Hammersmith
(which itself surely suggests that the approach to the new station's
name is inconsistent with current practice).

THC


John B September 7th 06 02:07 PM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
THC wrote:
I note from the TfL 2010 map the change to the name of Shepherd's Bush
H&C station to Shepherd's Bush Market, which IMO is a very sensible
development to reflect the distinct nature of the surrounding area and
also the separateness from the Central/"London Overground" (still feels
weird saying that!) station at the other end of Shepherd's Bush Green.

On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick. In an age where connectivity
is apparently all I can't help but feel that this passes up a great
chance to publicly embed a new H&C/Central line interchange by
referring to the new station as "White City", even if the connection
'twixt the two stations is on-street as in the case of Hammersmith
(which itself surely suggests that the approach to the new station's
name is inconsistent with current practice).


....or that Hammersmith's name is inconsistent with current practice,
but that renaming it would be confusing and expensive.

General current practice seems to be to mark walking-distance
interchanges on the map, but name them separately - e.g. Tower
Hill/Tower Gateway; Bow Road/Bow Church; Dalston Kingsland/Dalston
Junction.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org


thoss September 7th 06 03:30 PM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 John B wrote:

THC wrote:
I note from the TfL 2010 map the change to the name of Shepherd's Bush
H&C station to Shepherd's Bush Market, which IMO is a very sensible
development to reflect the distinct nature of the surrounding area and
also the separateness from the Central/"London Overground" (still feels
weird saying that!) station at the other end of Shepherd's Bush Green.

On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick. In an age where connectivity
is apparently all I can't help but feel that this passes up a great
chance to publicly embed a new H&C/Central line interchange by
referring to the new station as "White City", even if the connection
'twixt the two stations is on-street as in the case of Hammersmith
(which itself surely suggests that the approach to the new station's
name is inconsistent with current practice).


...or that Hammersmith's name is inconsistent with current practice,
but that renaming it would be confusing and expensive.

General current practice seems to be to mark walking-distance
interchanges on the map, but name them separately - e.g. Tower
Hill/Tower Gateway; Bow Road/Bow Church; Dalston Kingsland/Dalston
Junction.

And it's of course a revival of the name of the station on the opposite
side of Wood Lane which closed about fifty years ago following a fire.
--
Thoss

Richard J. September 7th 06 04:07 PM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
THC wrote:
I note from the TfL 2010 map the change to the name of Shepherd's
Bush H&C station to Shepherd's Bush Market, which IMO is a very
sensible development to reflect the distinct nature of the
surrounding area and also the separateness from the Central/"London
Overground" (still feels weird saying that!) station at the other
end of Shepherd's Bush Green.

On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick. In an age where
connectivity is apparently all I can't help but feel that this
passes up a great chance to publicly embed a new H&C/Central line
interchange by referring to the new station as "White City",


Exactly, especially as the main (only?) reason for building the new
station is to serve the new White City shopping centre. The owners of
the centre will probably lobby LU to name the station White City.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


asdf September 7th 06 10:25 PM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
On 7 Sep 2006 07:07:15 -0700, John B wrote:

On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick. In an age where connectivity
is apparently all I can't help but feel that this passes up a great
chance to publicly embed a new H&C/Central line interchange by
referring to the new station as "White City", even if the connection
'twixt the two stations is on-street as in the case of Hammersmith
(which itself surely suggests that the approach to the new station's
name is inconsistent with current practice).


...or that Hammersmith's name is inconsistent with current practice,
but that renaming it would be confusing and expensive.

General current practice seems to be to mark walking-distance
interchanges on the map, but name them separately - e.g. Tower
Hill/Tower Gateway; Bow Road/Bow Church; Dalston Kingsland/Dalston
Junction.


What about Shadwell/Shadwell, which opened at the same time as Bow
Church and Tower Gateway?

I don't think there is a consistent policy. (Though if there is, I
look forward to using Hammersmith South and Hammersmith North. Not to
mention changing from West Hampstead Thameslink to East West
Hampstead, passing West West Hampstead on the way.)

James Farrar September 7th 06 11:20 PM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:07:04 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

THC wrote:
I note from the TfL 2010 map the change to the name of Shepherd's
Bush H&C station to Shepherd's Bush Market, which IMO is a very
sensible development to reflect the distinct nature of the
surrounding area and also the separateness from the Central/"London
Overground" (still feels weird saying that!) station at the other
end of Shepherd's Bush Green.

On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick. In an age where
connectivity is apparently all I can't help but feel that this
passes up a great chance to publicly embed a new H&C/Central line
interchange by referring to the new station as "White City",


Exactly, especially as the main (only?) reason for building the new
station is to serve the new White City shopping centre. The owners of
the centre will probably lobby LU to name the station White City.


I wonder if they'll have as much success as a certain other commercial
enterprise in the Thirties, which is rather more than the Government
managed in the late Nineties...

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

John Rowland September 8th 06 02:27 AM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
Richard J. wrote:
THC wrote:

On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick.


Exactly, especially as the main (only?) reason for building the new
station is to serve the new White City shopping centre. The owners of
the centre will probably lobby LU to name the station White City.


.... so the Wood Lane name is just a blackmail tactic by LU, and will be
changed to White City as soon as the owners of the centre fork out.



David of Broadway September 8th 06 05:08 AM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
John B wrote:
General current practice seems to be to mark walking-distance
interchanges on the map, but name them separately - e.g. Tower
Hill/Tower Gateway; Bow Road/Bow Church; Dalston Kingsland/Dalston
Junction.


Canary Wharf? West Hampstead?
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA

Dave Arquati September 8th 06 09:22 AM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
John Rowland wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
THC wrote:
On the other hand, it seems that by calling the new H&C line station
"Wood Lane", TfL/LU are missing a trick.

Exactly, especially as the main (only?) reason for building the new
station is to serve the new White City shopping centre. The owners of
the centre will probably lobby LU to name the station White City.


.... so the Wood Lane name is just a blackmail tactic by LU, and will be
changed to White City as soon as the owners of the centre fork out.


Aren't they already paying for the station to be built?


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Colum Mylod September 8th 06 10:57 AM

Shepherd's Bush Market, Wood Lane - H&C line developments
 
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:27:53 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

... so the Wood Lane name is just a blackmail tactic by LU, and will be
changed to White City as soon as the owners of the centre fork out.


Will the SC be called White City though? The marketing types are
probably pouring over this and pondering such names as "retail
solutions London W12"!

The new station could also serve the 5000 or so BBC employees which
considering the car parks' sizes could exceed the numbers going by
tube to the new SC.

--
Old anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com appears broke
So back to cmylod at bigfoot dot com


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