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Why don't the green lobby come
down hard on this wasteful product.


Because they are afraid of Murdoch?


I'm "green." Murdoch doesn't scare me.

Next target please.........

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Kev wrote:

I am not sure that I would agree to taking up space that could be used
by a standing passenger for some stupid bin fror free newspapers.


Then you didn't read my post. I'm not proposing putting it anywhere
that would get in the way of standing pax.

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Neil Williams wrote:
Kev wrote:

I am not sure that I would agree to taking up space that could be used
by a standing passenger for some stupid bin fror free newspapers.


Then you didn't read my post. I'm not proposing putting it anywhere
that would get in the way of standing pax.

Neil


In that case I don't understand where you are going to put it so that
it doesn't get in the way. Most tube trains that I get on are nose to
nose. Anything that you put in will take up space, unless it hangs from
the roof then space is limited.
I would like to see them banned along with the other scurge of the
underground, bottled water.

Kevin

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On 21 Sep 2006 03:00:05 -0700, "Kev" wrote:


Neil Williams wrote:
Kev wrote:

I am not sure that I would agree to taking up space that could be used
by a standing passenger for some stupid bin fror free newspapers.


Then you didn't read my post. I'm not proposing putting it anywhere
that would get in the way of standing pax.

Neil


In that case I don't understand where you are going to put it so that
it doesn't get in the way. Most tube trains that I get on are nose to
nose. Anything that you put in will take up space, unless it hangs from
the roof then space is limited.
I would like to see them banned along with the other scurge of the
underground, bottled water.


I look forward to the tube trains full of passengers who have fainted,
each taking up as much floor space as several who are standing.

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Kev wrote:

In that case I don't understand where you are going to put it so that
it doesn't get in the way.


Just below roof height on the partition separating the seats from the
walls, on the seat side? Or maybe (lateral thinking) on the station
platforms.

Anyhow, it'd be a better concept on trains, especially intercity ones.

Most tube trains that I get on are nose to
nose. Anything that you put in will take up space, unless it hangs from
the roof then space is limited.
I would like to see them banned along with the other scurge of the
underground, bottled water.


Precisely what adverse effect does someone consuming bottled water (or
indeed any other drink) have on your Tube use?

Neil



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Neil Williams ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I am not sure that I would agree to taking up space that could be used
by a standing passenger for some stupid bin fror free newspapers.


Then you didn't read my post. I'm not proposing putting it anywhere
that would get in the way of standing pax.


If it isn't *RIGHT THERE* nobody'll use it.
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Neil Williams wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
"Two new free newspapers have created 1.5 tonnes of extra waste on the
London Underground (LU), it has been claimed."


The railways and (slightly less so) the Tube are missing a trick with
newspapers, free or otherwise, in that they get picked up as rubbish.
Why not put a clearly-signed plastic newspaper rack in each vestibule
(perhaps facing the seats on the Tube so it doesn't get in the way of
standing passengers) and encourage passengers by way of notices and
announcements to leave any unused newspapers in the rack for another
person to read?

Tidier, more environmentally-friendly, good passenger service and would
cost next to nothing.

Neil

I am not sure that I would agree to taking up space that could be used
by a standing passenger for some stupid bin fror free newspapers. Just
make the damn things illegal.


As the operators have put the contract to litter the tube 'out to tender' to
the person who will pay them the biggest amount of dosh I don't think that
they want to pass a law making them illegal.

tim


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Neil Williams wrote:

The railways and (slightly less so) the Tube are missing a trick with
newspapers, free or otherwise, in that they get picked up as rubbish.
Why not put a clearly-signed plastic newspaper rack in each vestibule
(perhaps facing the seats on the Tube so it doesn't get in the way of
standing passengers) and encourage passengers by way of notices and
announcements to leave any unused newspapers in the rack for another
person to read?

Tidier, more environmentally-friendly, good passenger service and would
cost next to nothing.


When they collect them now do they recycle them?

What is shocking is that certain stations have already run out of
Metros by 8am. I think it tends to be the ones that have newspaper
sellers in the station because they can't bear the competition.

That means that passengers scrounge around for them, any leftover ones
on the train, on the platforms, even in the bins (which they do have).

There is already a place to put finished-with metros - when you leave
the station just put it back into the metro stand.

Note: I once took a pile of metros with me on the way from Brent Cross
(where there are loads) to Finchley Road (which is out of them before
8am) and put them into the stand there (apart from the one I wanted for
myself) and they were gone within seconds.

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On 20 Sep 2006 23:43:59 -0700, Neil Williams
wrote in .com:

The railways and (slightly less so) the Tube are missing a trick with
newspapers, free or otherwise, in that they get picked up as rubbish.
Why not put a clearly-signed plastic newspaper rack in each vestibule
(perhaps facing the seats on the Tube so it doesn't get in the way of
standing passengers) and encourage passengers by way of notices and
announcements to leave any unused newspapers in the rack for another
person to read?


I thought that was what the windowsill behind the seats was for.
I'm sure I've never tucked a read paper behind my head on a moderately packed
train without someone reaching across for it within seconds (or responding to
my invitation to take it because of obvious interest before tucking it away).

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The railways and (slightly less so) the Tube are missing a trick with
newspapers, free or otherwise, in that they get picked up as rubbish.
Why not put a clearly-signed plastic newspaper rack in each vestibule
(perhaps facing the seats on the Tube so it doesn't get in the way of
standing passengers) and encourage passengers by way of notices and
announcements to leave any unused newspapers in the rack for another
person to read?

Tidier, more environmentally-friendly, good passenger service and would
cost next to nothing.

Neil


Better still if the peasants could take their free comix with them and
dispose of them like grown-ups





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