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[original thread on uk.railway]


News_Demon (removespam) wrote:

When purchasing tickets with a credit card from the machines at London
Paddington is possible to purchase 2 tickets in the same transaction?

There is almost cetainly a muiltple ticket option if you're buying more
than one ticket for the same journey - i.e. once you've specified the
journey and ticket type you can buy x number of adult and x number of
child tickets.

AFAIA no public transport ticket machines allow you to have a virtual
basked and buy multiple tickets for different journeys in one
transaction.

I ask AFAIK at a LU machine you can only buy 1 ticket and can only use your
card ONCE in a 24 hour period.

LU ticket machines allow you to buy several tickets for the same
journey as described above. I'm not sure about whether the "one
purchase using a credit/debit card on the LU network" rule still
applies - perhaps it is a bit more forgiving now that LU ticket
machines are all equipped with a chip and pin pad, which reduces the
risk that the user of the card is not the real cardholder.

The wise sages of uk.transport.london may know the facts...

Mizter T wrote:
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[original thread on uk.railway]


News_Demon (removespam) wrote:

When purchasing tickets with a credit card from the machines at London
Paddington is possible to purchase 2 tickets in the same transaction?

There is almost cetainly a muiltple ticket option if you're buying more
than one ticket for the same journey - i.e. once you've specified the
journey and ticket type you can buy x number of adult and x number of
child tickets.

AFAIA no public transport ticket machines allow you to have a virtual
basked and buy multiple tickets for different journeys in one
transaction.

I ask AFAIK at a LU machine you can only buy 1 ticket and can only use your
card ONCE in a 24 hour period.

LU ticket machines allow you to buy several tickets for the same
journey as described above. I'm not sure about whether the "one
purchase using a credit/debit card on the LU network" rule still
applies - perhaps it is a bit more forgiving now that LU ticket
machines are all equipped with a chip and pin pad, which reduces the
risk that the user of the card is not the real cardholder.

The wise sages of uk.transport.london may know the facts...

No its fine - bought two tickets on my Switchcard last month - A single
each way as plans fell through

Mark B wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
[crossposted to uk.transport.london]
[original thread on uk.railway]


News_Demon (removespam) wrote:

When purchasing tickets with a credit card from the machines at London
Paddington is possible to purchase 2 tickets in the same transaction?

There is almost cetainly a muiltple ticket option if you're buying more
than one ticket for the same journey - i.e. once you've specified the
journey and ticket type you can buy x number of adult and x number of
child tickets.

AFAIA no public transport ticket machines allow you to have a virtual
basked and buy multiple tickets for different journeys in one
transaction.

I ask AFAIK at a LU machine you can only buy 1 ticket and can only use your
card ONCE in a 24 hour period.

LU ticket machines allow you to buy several tickets for the same
journey as described above. I'm not sure about whether the "one
purchase using a credit/debit card on the LU network" rule still
applies - perhaps it is a bit more forgiving now that LU ticket
machines are all equipped with a chip and pin pad, which reduces the
risk that the user of the card is not the real cardholder.

The wise sages of uk.transport.london may know the facts...

No its fine - bought two tickets on my Switchcard last month - A single
each way as plans fell through

One thing that's always useful bearing in mind is that Saver Returns
cost a pound than Saver Singles (I think this is universal across all
TOCs) - I pretty much always buy a return even if I don't need it just
in case.

As far as I can see a similar rule seems to apply for Cheap Day Returns
- i.e. a CDR costs little more (like 10p more) than a standard single
(or cheap day single if they're available on that route) - though for
shorter journeys the price difference between single and CDR appears to
be greater (at least in the south-east).

Anyway the point being that if you're buying walk-on tickets it might
be worth checking how much more expensive a return is - even if you're
only after a single - just in case plans change.

Mizter T wrote:


One thing that's always useful bearing in mind is that Saver Returns
cost a pound than Saver Singles (I think this is universal across all
TOCs) - I pretty much always buy a return even if I don't need it just
in case.

As far as I can see a similar rule seems to apply for Cheap Day Returns
- i.e. a CDR costs little more (like 10p more) than a standard single
(or cheap day single if they're available on that route) - though for
shorter journeys the price difference between single and CDR appears to
be greater (at least in the south-east).

Anyway the point being that if you're buying walk-on tickets it might
be worth checking how much more expensive a return is - even if you're
only after a single - just in case plans change.


Yes but London Underground don't do returns IIRC.

Mark B wrote:

Mizter T wrote:


One thing that's always useful bearing in mind is that Saver Returns
cost a pound than Saver Singles (I think this is universal across all
TOCs) - I pretty much always buy a return even if I don't need it just
in case.

As far as I can see a similar rule seems to apply for Cheap Day Returns
- i.e. a CDR costs little more (like 10p more) than a standard single
(or cheap day single if they're available on that route) - though for
shorter journeys the price difference between single and CDR appears to
be greater (at least in the south-east).

Anyway the point being that if you're buying walk-on tickets it might
be worth checking how much more expensive a return is - even if you're
only after a single - just in case plans change.


Yes but London Underground don't do returns IIRC.

Reading the original post I presumed (possibly inaccurately) that
"McCall" was asking about the National Rail ticket machines - they
asked about "London Paddington", appeared to be comparing the situation
they might encouter to the LU machines that they had knowledge of, and
the question has been asked in the uk.railway newsgroup as opposed to
uk.transport.london. Perhaps when they return here they can clarify
their question.

By the by LU does do return fares, which are twice the single fare [1]
- but in most instances it's cheaper for a passenger to buy a Day
Travelcard (even an expensive peak Day Travelcard) than buying a return
at the cost of two singles. I presume there's an option to buy a return
from an LU ticket machine, and I also presume that it'll sell a
passenger a Day Travelcard if it's cheaper than the price of two
singles. ICBW on both counts though as I haven't bought an LU single or
return fare on a paper ticket for ages - I'll take a look at a machine
tomorrow if I can and report back.

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[1] http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2006/single/

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Mark B wrote:

Mizter T wrote:


One thing that's always useful bearing in mind is that Saver Returns
cost a pound than Saver Singles (I think this is universal across all
TOCs) - I pretty much always buy a return even if I don't need it just
in case.

As far as I can see a similar rule seems to apply for Cheap Day Returns
- i.e. a CDR costs little more (like 10p more) than a standard single
(or cheap day single if they're available on that route) - though for
shorter journeys the price difference between single and CDR appears to
be greater (at least in the south-east).

Anyway the point being that if you're buying walk-on tickets it might
be worth checking how much more expensive a return is - even if you're
only after a single - just in case plans change.


Yes but London Underground don't do returns IIRC.

Reading the original post I presumed (possibly inaccurately) that
"McCall" was asking about the National Rail ticket machines - they
asked about "London Paddington", appeared to be comparing the situation
they might encouter to the LU machines that they had knowledge of, and
the question has been asked in the uk.railway newsgroup as opposed to
uk.transport.london. Perhaps when they return here they can clarify
their question.


i was indeed asking about National Rail tickets. should have stated that,
doh!!!!



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Mizter T wrote:
Mark B wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

One thing that's always useful bearing in mind is that Saver Returns
cost a pound than Saver Singles (I think this is universal across all
TOCs) - I pretty much always buy a return even if I don't need it just
in case.

As far as I can see a similar rule seems to apply for Cheap Day Returns
- i.e. a CDR costs little more (like 10p more) than a standard single
(or cheap day single if they're available on that route) - though for
shorter journeys the price difference between single and CDR appears to
be greater (at least in the south-east).

Anyway the point being that if you're buying walk-on tickets it might
be worth checking how much more expensive a return is - even if you're
only after a single - just in case plans change.

Yes but London Underground don't do returns IIRC.

Reading the original post I presumed (possibly inaccurately) that
"McCall" was asking about the National Rail ticket machines - they
asked about "London Paddington", appeared to be comparing the situation
they might encouter to the LU machines that they had knowledge of, and
the question has been asked in the uk.railway newsgroup as opposed to
uk.transport.london. Perhaps when they return here they can clarify
their question.

By the by LU does do return fares, which are twice the single fare [1]
- but in most instances it's cheaper for a passenger to buy a Day
Travelcard (even an expensive peak Day Travelcard) than buying a return
at the cost of two singles. I presume there's an option to buy a return
from an LU ticket machine, and I also presume that it'll sell a
passenger a Day Travelcard if it's cheaper than the price of two
singles. ICBW on both counts though as I haven't bought an LU single or
return fare on a paper ticket for ages - I'll take a look at a machine
tomorrow if I can and report back.

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[1] http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2006/single/


Yeah - the fool that I was had gone and forgotten my Oyster Card