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Paul Terry October 27th 06 05:19 PM

TfL's curious streetlamps
 
I *think* this curious question may be related to transport ...

Our local part of the South Circular had new streetlamps fitted by TfL
about a year ago. The lamp posts have two brackets (presumably for
hanging, say, "London Olympics" banners); the lamp housings are circular
and on the top of each is raised dome. I thought nothing of the latter
until, getting up early a few days ago, I looked out of our loft window
and saw that the domes are actually skyward-pointing bright blue lights
that were illuminated on this one occasion.

Does anyone know what these lamps are for? The South Circular through
Putney and East Sheen is pretty much exactly on one of the incoming
Heathrow flight-paths ... but surely they wouldn't be some kind of
landing lights, as we are about 9 miles away from Heathrow.

--
Paul Terry

Dr Ivan D. Reid October 27th 06 08:09 PM

TfL's curious streetlamps
 
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:19:04 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote in :
I *think* this curious question may be related to transport ...


Our local part of the South Circular had new streetlamps fitted by TfL
about a year ago. The lamp posts have two brackets (presumably for
hanging, say, "London Olympics" banners); the lamp housings are circular
and on the top of each is raised dome. I thought nothing of the latter
until, getting up early a few days ago, I looked out of our loft window
and saw that the domes are actually skyward-pointing bright blue lights
that were illuminated on this one occasion.


It seems to be the "done thing" to illuminate everything with blue
LEDs, now that they are available -- the refurbished Students' Onion building
at Brunel has them for no obvious reason.

Does anyone know what these lamps are for? The South Circular through
Putney and East Sheen is pretty much exactly on one of the incoming
Heathrow flight-paths ... but surely they wouldn't be some kind of
landing lights, as we are about 9 miles away from Heathrow.


...but you weren't supposed to be looking at that moment. Watch out
for black helicopters!

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Henry November 1st 06 08:55 PM

TfL's curious streetlamps
 
Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:19:04 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote in :
I *think* this curious question may be related to transport ...


Our local part of the South Circular had new streetlamps fitted by TfL
about a year ago. The lamp posts have two brackets (presumably for
hanging, say, "London Olympics" banners); the lamp housings are circular
and on the top of each is raised dome. I thought nothing of the latter
until, getting up early a few days ago, I looked out of our loft window
and saw that the domes are actually skyward-pointing bright blue lights
that were illuminated on this one occasion.


It seems to be the "done thing" to illuminate everything with blue
LEDs, now that they are available -- the refurbished Students' Onion building
at Brunel has them for no obvious reason.


It's to balance out the Glowing Orange Blob on top of Tower A.
I wonder if the Uni has an environmental policy at all?

Anyway, I much prefer the angle-dependent ones in the wall at the
entrance to the Heathrow tunnel.

Does anyone know what these lamps are for? The South Circular through
Putney and East Sheen is pretty much exactly on one of the incoming
Heathrow flight-paths ... but surely they wouldn't be some kind of
landing lights, as we are about 9 miles away from Heathrow.


Also streetlamps tend to be along roads, which tend to have bends...
how many of these lamps are there?

Do air ambulances have designated landing spots - could it indicate
something like that?

The colour's weird too - the human eye isn't very sensitive to blue,
so (per Watt) it seems a bad choice for something to be seen from a
distance, or in fog...

Hth

Henry


Dr Ivan D. Reid November 1st 06 10:03 PM

TfL's curious streetlamps
 
On 1 Nov 2006 13:55:15 -0800, Henry
wrote in om:
Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:


It seems to be the "done thing" to illuminate everything with blue
LEDs, now that they are available -- the refurbished Students' Onion building
at Brunel has them for no obvious reason.


It's to balance out the Glowing Orange Blob on top of Tower A.
I wonder if the Uni has an environmental policy at all?


What colour does that new Brunel logo on the next building along
(lecture centre?) light up as? Or is it not operational yet?

Anyway, I much prefer the angle-dependent ones in the wall at the
entrance to the Heathrow tunnel.


Haven't been to LHR in the dark; maybe an early flight to the next
CMS Week so I can check it out...

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Paul Terry November 2nd 06 10:54 AM

TfL's curious streetlamps
 
In message om, Henry
writes

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:19:04 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote in :


Does anyone know what these lamps are for? The South Circular through
Putney and East Sheen is pretty much exactly on one of the incoming
Heathrow flight-paths ... but surely they wouldn't be some kind of
landing lights, as we are about 9 miles away from Heathrow.


Also streetlamps tend to be along roads, which tend to have bends...


The Upper Richmond Road (South Circular) going west is reasonably
straight for several miles after leaving Wandsworth - one of the
incoming Heathrow flightpaths follows it fairly closely.

how many of these lamps are there?


Difficult to say as the blue dome can only be seen from above - I can
see about ten from my loft window, but all the lamp posts on this
stretch of road (several hundred in all) could be similarly equipped.

Do air ambulances have designated landing spots - could it indicate
something like that?


I doubt it - there are plenty of open spaces in the area which would
form better landing sites.

The colour's weird too - the human eye isn't very sensitive to blue,
so (per Watt) it seems a bad choice for something to be seen from a
distance, or in fog...


I must admit, I'm baffled!
--
Paul Terry


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