Parking near the M3 to get the tube
 

Hi,

A friend is coming into London via the M3 and wants to park on the
outskirts and get the tube in. It would be on a Tuesday afternoon.

Any recommendations on where he should aim for?

Thanks,
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Parking near the M3 to get the tube
 

Hi,

We usually use Richmond Stn. Has parking (safe) nearby on A316.

Terry


Hello Flash,

Hi,

A friend is coming into London via the M3 and wants to park on the
outskirts and get the tube in. It would be on a Tuesday afternoon.

Any recommendations on where he should aim for?

Thanks,

Parking near the M3 to get the tube
 

In article ,
(Flash Wilson Bristow) wrote:

A friend is coming into London via the M3 and wants to park on the
outskirts and get the tube in. It would be on a Tuesday afternoon.

If he's on the M3 corridor, he's better off coming in by train from
Southampton/Winchester/Basingstoke/Farnborough - cheaper parking too.

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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:31 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Paul Cummins
wrote:
A friend is coming into London via the M3 and wants to park on the
outskirts and get the tube in. It would be on a Tuesday afternoon.

If he's on the M3 corridor, he's better off coming in by train from
Southampton/Winchester/Basingstoke/Farnborough - cheaper parking too.

He's in the middle of Somerset, and giving a lift to the person who
would normally run him to the station, I suspect. I think he's
already considered and discounted train, although he'd use it if
he was on his own for this journey.


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Flash Wilson Bristow wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:31 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Paul Cummins
wrote:
A friend is coming into London via the M3 and wants to park on the
outskirts and get the tube in. It would be on a Tuesday afternoon.

If he's on the M3 corridor, he's better off coming in by train from
Southampton/Winchester/Basingstoke/Farnborough - cheaper parking too.

He's in the middle of Somerset, and giving a lift to the person who
would normally run him to the station, I suspect. I think he's
already considered and discounted train, although he'd use it if
he was on his own for this journey.


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I used to work with somebody who drove from the Bagshot area and parked
near Morden station.

Kevin

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Kev wrote:
Flash Wilson Bristow wrote:

I used to work with somebody who drove from the Bagshot area and parked
near Morden station.

Kevin


Fairly insane thing to do imho. I grew up in Morden and visit family
there. Morden is now the Controlled Parking Zone from hell. Bagshot is
useless for London trains I agree but Richmond or even Worplesdon,
Guildford or Woking are nearer than Morden and quicker overall to Waterloo..

mysteryflyer

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Kev wrote:
Flash Wilson Bristow wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:31 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Paul Cummins
wrote:
A friend is coming into London via the M3 and wants to park on the
outskirts and get the tube in. It would be on a Tuesday afternoon.

If he's on the M3 corridor, he's better off coming in by train from
Southampton/Winchester/Basingstoke/Farnborough - cheaper parking too.

He's in the middle of Somerset, and giving a lift to the person who
would normally run him to the station, I suspect. I think he's
already considered and discounted train, although he'd use it if
he was on his own for this journey.


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I used to work with somebody who drove from the Bagshot area and parked
near Morden station.

Kevin

The M3 ends in Sunbury. Quite a way from any tube station.
However, SWTrains links are good.
Sunbury station is just by the M3 junction but trains are less frequent
and take longer.
Feltham Station has fast trains into London Waterloo. Take about 35
minutes.

Go a little further and the M3 merges turns into the A316.
Whitton, Twickenham and Richmond stations are nearby and will get you
into Waterloo.
Richmond will also plug you into the tube network. But it's faster to
get SWT into Central London.

You how long you are staying and at what times od day and day. But
parking will be quite expensive in Richmond or Twickenham for long
durations.

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In message . com,
Londoncityslicker writes

You how long you are staying and at what times od day and day. But
parking will be quite expensive in Richmond or Twickenham for long
durations.

Parking in Richmond's Old Deer Park car park (adjacent to the A316,
which is the continuation of the M3) is currently £5 for up to six hours
or £7 for up to 24 hours (£6 and £8 respectively from 5th February): its
free after 6.30pm. Its only a short walk to Richmond station, from where
a fast train will get to Waterloo in 10 minutes.
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Paul Terry wrote:
In message . com,
Londoncityslicker writes

You how long you are staying and at what times od day and day. But
parking will be quite expensive in Richmond or Twickenham for long
durations.

Parking in Richmond's Old Deer Park car park (adjacent to the A316,
which is the continuation of the M3) is currently £5 for up to six
hours or £7 for up to 24 hours (£6 and £8 respectively from 5th
February): its free after 6.30pm. Its only a short walk to Richmond
station, from where a fast train will get to Waterloo in 10 minutes.

Not that fast, in the afternoon anyway; 19 minutes is the fastest. On a
Tuesday afternoon (when the OP is travelling), the time to get to
Waterloo from arrival at Richmond station (including waiting for the
train) would be between 19 and 33 minutes, average 26 minutes.
Curiously, despite having 4 tracks from Barnes onwards, none of the
all-stations stopping trains are overtaken by the fasts.
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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

On a
Tuesday afternoon (when the OP is travelling), the time to get to
Waterloo from arrival at Richmond station (including waiting for
the train) would be between 19 and 33 minutes, average 26 minutes.
Curiously, despite having 4 tracks from Barnes onwards, none of the
all-stations stopping trains are overtaken by the fasts.

By comparison, parking in Basingstoke is £2.50 a day, and 50 minutes
into Waterloo, and an easy drive from Somerset without having to
stress on either the motorway or the suburbs of London.

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In message , Richard J.
writes

Paul Terry wrote:

Its only a short walk to Richmond station, from where a fast train
will get to Waterloo in 10 minutes.

Not that fast, in the afternoon anyway; 19 minutes is the fastest.

Yes, sorry - that should have been 20 minutes, not 10.

Curiously, despite having 4 tracks from Barnes onwards, none of the
all-stations stopping trains are overtaken by the fasts.

With the current timetable, the four-track section is used to allow the
fasts to overtake Hounslow loop stopping-services in the up direction.
But Richmond fasts overtake Richmond stoppers in the down direction
(usually at Barnes) - they leave Waterloo 5 minutes after the stopping
service but arrive at Richmond 6 minutes before the latter.
--
Paul Terry

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Paul Cummins wrote:

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

On a
Tuesday afternoon (when the OP is travelling), the time to get to
Waterloo from arrival at Richmond station (including waiting for
the train) would be between 19 and 33 minutes, average 26 minutes.
Curiously, despite having 4 tracks from Barnes onwards, none of the
all-stations stopping trains are overtaken by the fasts.

By comparison, parking in Basingstoke is £2.50 a day, and 50 minutes
into Waterloo, and an easy drive from Somerset without having to
stress on either the motorway or the suburbs of London.

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True that parking would be cheaper in Basingstoke but outweighed by the
higher cost of the train ticket. (£20 as opposed to £5.70 for a 1-4
travelcard at Richmond) If theres more than one of you then car to
Richmond would be more cost effective.

However if it's just one person, to save the extra drive into town i
would say it's worth it.
Basingstoke to Richmond takes about 45 minutes in reasonable traffic at
legal speeds.
The additional time on the train is only 20 minutes.

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Paul Cummins wrote:

By comparison, parking in Basingstoke is £2.50 a day, and 50 minutes
into Waterloo, and an easy drive from Somerset without having to
stress on either the motorway or the suburbs of London.


Where in Basingstoke can you park for £2.50 anywhere near the station?
The station car park was £4 when I last used it a year or two ago and
I think is now over £5, and parking all day in the nearby shopping
centre is somewhere around £7.

Steve Adams

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In article .com,
(Steve) wrote:

Where in Basingstoke can you park for £2.50 anywhere near the
station?

The old Allders car park. Go up the ram next to the station, and at
the top go straight on, instead of turning left.

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Paul Terry wrote:
In message ,
Richard J. writes

Paul Terry wrote:

Its only a short walk to Richmond station, from where a fast
train will get to Waterloo in 10 minutes.

Not that fast, in the afternoon anyway; 19 minutes is the fastest.

Yes, sorry - that should have been 20 minutes, not 10.

Curiously, despite having 4 tracks from Barnes onwards, none of the
all-stations stopping trains are overtaken by the fasts.

With the current timetable, the four-track section is used to allow
the fasts to overtake Hounslow loop stopping-services in the up
direction.

Not in the afternoon when the OP would be travelling, unless you can
give an example.
--
Richard J.
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In message , Richard J.
writes

Paul Terry wrote:
With the current timetable, the four-track section is used to allow
the fasts to overtake Hounslow loop stopping-services in the up
direction.

Not in the afternoon when the OP would be travelling, unless you can
give an example.

Fast trains leaving Richmond at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour pass
non-stop through Barnes 4-5 minutes later, overtaking the Hounslow loop
services that leave Barnes at 19 and 49 minutes past the hour - usually
passing in the station or soon after.
--
Paul Terry

Parking near the M3 to get the tube
 

Paul Terry wrote:
In message ,
Richard J. writes

Paul Terry wrote:
With the current timetable, the four-track section is used to
allow the fasts to overtake Hounslow loop stopping-services in
the up direction.

Not in the afternoon when the OP would be travelling, unless you
can give an example.

Fast trains leaving Richmond at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour pass
non-stop through Barnes 4-5 minutes later, overtaking the Hounslow
loop services that leave Barnes at 19 and 49 minutes past the hour
- usually passing in the station or soon after.

Oh, *those* Hounslow Loop services! Yes, of course, the fasts from
Richmond overtake the clockwise Waterloo-Richmond-Hounslow-Waterloo
trains. I was looking at the Richmond-Waterloo timetable, forgetting
that from Barnes onwards you also have up trains from the other
direction in the timetable.
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Richard J. wrote:

Paul Terry wrote:
In message ,
Richard J. writes

Paul Terry wrote:
With the current timetable, the four-track section is used to
allow the fasts to overtake Hounslow loop stopping-services in
the up direction.

Not in the afternoon when the OP would be travelling, unless you
can give an example.

Fast trains leaving Richmond at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour pass
non-stop through Barnes 4-5 minutes later, overtaking the Hounslow
loop services that leave Barnes at 19 and 49 minutes past the hour
- usually passing in the station or soon after.


Are those the Hounslow loop services which go via Richmond then round
to Hounslow.
The ones which aren't really advertised (I guess to stop people getting
really confused)

Usually the indicator boards say Mortlake on the anti clockwise routes.
And strangely Chiswick on the anticlockwise. From Barnes onwards I
think.

I still find the service useful when going into Waterloo from
Isleworth.
As if a train is delayed by 10 minutes or more it's sometimes worth
your while taking the train on the opposite platform. Journey will be
longer by ten minutes but the train is late by ten minutes. So no real
difference. At least giving you the sense that you are moving and you
get a seat and can read the paper rather than waiting for a train in
the cold which may/may not arrive later.

Of course the other use is to getting over to Richmond, Sheen or
Mortlake easily.

Obviously works in the other direction too. But I don't know why the
residents of Richmond would ever want to come to Hounslow! (Asda
maybe?)





Oh, *those* Hounslow Loop services! Yes, of course, the fasts from
Richmond overtake the clockwise Waterloo-Richmond-Hounslow-Waterloo
trains. I was looking at the Richmond-Waterloo timetable, forgetting
that from Barnes onwards you also have up trains from the other
direction in the timetable.
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In message .com,
Londoncityslicker writes

Are those the Hounslow loop services which go via Richmond then round
to Hounslow.

Yes - on the last part of their clockwise journey round the loop.

The ones which aren't really advertised (I guess to stop people getting
really confused)

Well, they're advertised clearly enough in the Housnlow Loop timetable,
but circular services are always a problem for simple destination-board
signs. Or for queries like "Does this train go to Chiswick? Well, yes
.... eventually"!

Of course the other use is to getting over to Richmond, Sheen or
Mortlake easily.

Obviously works in the other direction too. But I don't know why the
residents of Richmond would ever want to come to Hounslow!

I think the clockwise service is provided to enable residents of
Hounslow to get back :)
--
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"Londoncityslicker" wrote in message
oups.com...

Obviously works in the other direction too. But I don't know why the
residents of Richmond would ever want to come to Hounslow! (Asda
maybe?)

The average Richmond resident wouldn't be seen dead in Asda!

However, aspirational people unfortunate enough to live in Hounslow may
like to go to Richmond for some sightseeing, to visit proper shops and to
watch their betters in their natural habitat[1].

Ian

[1] There is also a Marks & Spencer if they prefer that to Habitat.

;-)

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Ian F. ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

The average Richmond resident wouldn't be seen dead in Asda!

[1] There is also a Marks & Spencer if they prefer that to Habitat.

Habitat doesn't sell food. HTH.

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"Flash Wilson Bristow" wrote in message
...
Hi,

A friend is coming into London via the M3 and wants to park on the
outskirts and get the tube in. It would be on a Tuesday afternoon.

Any recommendations on where he should aim for?

Thanks,
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If you really mean the tube M3/M25(!)/M4 to M4J3 then A312 South to the A4
and head for London. Osterley Station (on the left about 2 miles from the
A312) has a car park. If that's full on street parking.

Otherwise continue M3 to terminus then on along the A316. Cross Twickenham
Bridge and continue until Chiswick Bridge. Immediately after crossing turn
left into Hartington Road, first right (Cavendish Road) at the end left into
Spencer Road and park (free) by Station Approach Road and walk to Chiswick
Station (South West trains). Trains every 15 minutes to Clapham Junction
(connections to Olympia and Victoria), Vauxhall (Victoria Line) and in to
Waterloo. Watch the frequency in the evenings and the last train times.
Getting out of Chiswick along the A316 during the evening rush (and in in
the morning) can be interesting(!).

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"Richard J." wrote:
Parking in Richmond's Old Deer Park car park (adjacent to the A316,
which is the continuation of the M3) is currently £5 for up to six
hours or £7 for up to 24 hours (£6 and £8 respectively from 5th
February): its free after 6.30pm. Its only a short walk to Richmond
station, from where a fast train will get to Waterloo in 10 minutes.

Not that fast, in the afternoon anyway; 19 minutes is the fastest. On a
Tuesday afternoon (when the OP is travelling), the time to get to Waterloo
from arrival at Richmond station (including waiting for the train) would
be between 19 and 33 minutes, average 26 minutes. Curiously, despite
having 4 tracks from Barnes onwards, none of the all-stations stopping
trains are overtaken by the fasts.

That's probably because there just aren't that many fast trains, due to the
fact that all the fast/semi-fast trains from Staines onwards originate from
Reading, where there's only one set of lines each way.

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