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On 6 Feb, 00:44, "MIG" wrote:
On Feb 6, 12:38 am, "Harry G" wrote:

On 4 Feb, 20:00, Dave A wrote: I made use of Pudding Mill Lane DLR station for the first time on
Saturday - an interesting experience. Surprisingly, it's not DLR's
least-used station (that accolade goes to Beckton Park for reasons that
I haven't yet worked out), with a very respectable annual usage figure
of about 325,000 passengers.


I'm just wondering... are these figures are based strictly on single
paper ticket sales, or on actual passenger surveys? If it's the
former, I'm guessing that the cheapest ticket (or one of the cheapest)
to get you through the automatic ticket barriers at Stratford would be
a single to Pudding Mill Lane...!


It's actually the same price to Pudding Mill Lane as to Lewisham or
anywhere not in Zone 1.

Oh well, that theory is probably disproved!

Although... the 325,000 ppa figure is perhaps a 2005 figure, before
the paper ticket prices were hiked? Was it cheaper to go to PML then
than other stations - PML is joint Zone 2/3, Stratford is Zone 3 -
meaning a Zone 3 ticket only, but all other DLR stations required a
Zone 2 and 3 ticket.

I appreciate some LU stations near Stratford are also Zone 3 and would
have had the same prices, but because of gates at the other end you
would need a ticket to the right destination to exit an LU station. If
travelling on DLR (or National Rail services come to it) you could
walk out freely at almost any station so long as the train captain/
conductor hadn't inspected your ticket.

I was talking to a conductor on a ScotRail service into Glasgow Queen
Street shortly after automatic barriers were introduced there, and he
said the amount of tickets sold from Queen Street to the first station
(Bishopbriggs/Lenzie?) had increased massively since the gating - the
clear reason being that people were buying the cheapest possible
ticket simply to open the gates.


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On 5 Feb, 19:54, "Paul Scott" wrote:
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oups.com...



There are going to be some fantastic then and now shots available in
that case. So are all the Olympic crowds supposed to arrive from
Stratford? West Ham station not so far away either.


Stratford, Stratford International, and walk from West Ham (there must
be a new path built for that - currently it is a pain to get through).


I think the route is going to be along the 'green way' - above the northern
interceptor sewer...

I also hope they will clean all the stinky canals :-)
They are especially smelly in the summer...


I reckon its the tidal parts behind Three Mills that are the worst, but all
the piled river channels are going to kept full by a new semi tidal barrier
and lock somewhere - the tabloids had a go at it being called Prescott Lock,
as if it were named after the punchy politico of the same name, but of
course they were talking c**p as usual...

Paul


I wonder what their going to do about the smell coming up from the
sewer on the Greenway, a bit of a bad introduction to the stadium.
They cant blame it all on Paula Radcliffe having run along there.

Rob

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I can't for the life of me see where around 1000 passengers a day at
PML would go to or come from (that must work out at around 20 boarding
or alighting passengers per train in the peak hour), and would have
thought that Gallions Reach or Royal Albert would have less use than
Beckton Park but still more use than PML.


Actually that's 1000 "travels" a day - since most of the passengers
are using it twice a day. Actually I can easily see 500 people using
station daily - after all, there are no local shops in the area, so to
get food or booze people need to go to Stratford or Bow.
Also, when people cannot get DLR tickets at Stratford (ticket machine
is broke, or something) - DLR "agents" usually tell people to buy
tickets at PML.

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On 6 Feb, 00:38, "Harry G" wrote:


I can't for the life of me see where around 1000 passengers a day at
PML would go to or come from (that must work out at around 20 boarding
or alighting passengers per train in the peak hour), and would have
thought that Gallions Reach or Royal Albert would have less use than
Beckton Park but still more use than PML.


I used to use Pudding Mill Lane. There are no parking restrictions
outside the station
(at least there weren't last time I went) which isn't bad for a zone 2
station, albeit that
at present it's pretty much in the middle of nowhere (a bit of an
industrial area), and
it's reasonably placed off the A12 for accessibility.

Gallions Reach, which you also mention, is another station I have used
by parking
outside. It is fairly conveniently placed too for park & ride.

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Harry G wrote
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I was talking to a conductor on a ScotRail service into Glasgow Queen
Street shortly after automatic barriers were introduced there, and he
said the amount of tickets sold from Queen Street to the first

station
(Bishopbriggs/Lenzie?) had increased massively since the gating - the
clear reason being that people were buying the cheapest possible
ticket simply to open the gates.


The NR statation usage spreadsheet at
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/nav.1379

Shows Glasgow Queen Street has an annual 2.389M entries and 1.341M
exits a very unusual imbalance though ISTR having to leave from there
and return to Central. Nothing unusual about the entry/exit ratio for
Bishopbriggs or Lenzie.

( 3.224M interchanges)


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