In message , Tom
Anderson writes

Got the Vic at Finsbury Park, heading for Euston. Got as far as King's
Cross more or less alright. Then got an announcement: "this train is
being held here, as there is planned engineering work at Victoria; the
engineers will be on the line for about ten minutes". Got off and
headed over to the Northern line, to get to Euston; as i went down the
escalator, heard an announcement that the Victoria line was now suspended.

Firstly, any idea what it was about?

Signal failure at Victoria according to the TfL realtime page.
(Also faulty train at Warren Street, although I'm not sure if that was
later).

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!
--
Paul Terry

On 14 Feb, 16:56, Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Tom
Anderson writes

Got the Vic at Finsbury Park, heading for Euston. Got as far as King's
Cross more or less alright. Then got an announcement: "this train is
being held here, as there is planned engineering work at Victoria; the
engineers will be on the line for about ten minutes". Got off and
headed over to the Northern line, to get to Euston; as i went down the
escalator, heard an announcement that the Victoria line was now suspended.

Firstly, any idea what it was about?

Signal failure at Victoria according to the TfL realtime page.
(Also faulty train at Warren Street, although I'm not sure if that was
later).

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Maybe they meant to say "unplanned", or maybe you mishead it?

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:56:50 +0000, Paul Terry
wrote:

In message , Tom
Anderson writes

Got the Vic at Finsbury Park, heading for Euston. Got as far as King's
Cross more or less alright. Then got an announcement: "this train is
being held here, as there is planned engineering work at Victoria; the
engineers will be on the line for about ten minutes". Got off and
headed over to the Northern line, to get to Euston; as i went down the
escalator, heard an announcement that the Victoria line was now suspended.

Firstly, any idea what it was about?

Signal failure at Victoria according to the TfL realtime page.
(Also faulty train at Warren Street, although I'm not sure if that was
later).

Warren St was later - line ended up suspended H&I - Brixton.

More info tomorrow when I see the daily report.

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Planned in the sense that LU allowed them on to the tracks but not
planned in the sense of a long planned possession.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On 14 Feb, 18:27, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:56:50 +0000, Paul Terry

wrote:
In message , Tom
Anderson writes

(snip)

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Planned in the sense that LU allowed them on to the tracks but not
planned in the sense of a long planned possession.
--
Paul C

Admits to working for London Underground!


Are you sure you're not practising for an appearance before the
Assembly's transport committee Paul?!

On 14 Feb 2007 17:09:50 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

On 14 Feb, 18:27, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:56:50 +0000, Paul Terry

wrote:
In message , Tom
Anderson writes

(snip)

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Planned in the sense that LU allowed them on to the tracks but not
planned in the sense of a long planned possession.

Are you sure you're not practising for an appearance before the
Assembly's transport committee Paul?!

Not that I'm aware of. Thankfully Mr O'Toole usually gets that job.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On 15 Feb, 19:12, Paul Corfield wrote:
On 14 Feb 2007 17:09:50 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:



On 14 Feb, 18:27, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:56:50 +0000, Paul Terry

wrote:
In message , Tom
Anderson writes

(snip)

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Planned in the sense that LU allowed them on to the tracks but not
planned in the sense of a long planned possession.
Are you sure you're not practising for an appearance before the
Assembly's transport committee Paul?!

Not that I'm aware of. Thankfully Mr O'Toole usually gets that job.
--
Paul C


Always good to have the right O'Toole for the job.

On 15 Feb 2007 14:25:58 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

On 15 Feb, 19:12, Paul Corfield wrote:
On 14 Feb 2007 17:09:50 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:



On 14 Feb, 18:27, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:56:50 +0000, Paul Terry

wrote:
In message , Tom
Anderson writes

(snip)

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Planned in the sense that LU allowed them on to the tracks but not
planned in the sense of a long planned possession.
Are you sure you're not practising for an appearance before the
Assembly's transport committee Paul?!

Not that I'm aware of. Thankfully Mr O'Toole usually gets that job.
--
Paul C


Always good to have the right O'Toole for the job.

**groan**

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:12:13 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On 14 Feb 2007 17:09:50 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

On 14 Feb, 18:27, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:56:50 +0000, Paul Terry

wrote:
In message , Tom
Anderson writes

(snip)

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Planned in the sense that LU allowed them on to the tracks but not
planned in the sense of a long planned possession.

Are you sure you're not practising for an appearance before the
Assembly's transport committee Paul?!

Not that I'm aware of. Thankfully Mr O'Toole usually gets that job.

That's why we pay him: to tell the politicians how Metronet/Tubelines
have screwed up this time!

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:56:50 +0000, Paul Terry
wrote:

In message , Tom
Anderson writes

Got the Vic at Finsbury Park, heading for Euston. Got as far as King's
Cross more or less alright. Then got an announcement: "this train is
being held here, as there is planned engineering work at Victoria; the
engineers will be on the line for about ten minutes". Got off and
headed over to the Northern line, to get to Euston; as i went down the
escalator, heard an announcement that the Victoria line was now
suspended.

Firstly, any idea what it was about?

Signal failure at Victoria according to the TfL realtime page. (Also
faulty train at Warren Street, although I'm not sure if that was
later).

Warren St was later - line ended up suspended H&I - Brixton.

Righto.

Secondly, am i right in assuming the "planned" was a mistake?

Sounds like it: engineering work, yes, but not planned!

Planned in the sense that LU allowed them on to the tracks but not
planned in the sense of a long planned possession.

Genius! So is there also unplanned engineering work, where the navvies
just bundle past the platform staff and fix things before anyone can stop
them, then?

tom

--
The Web isn't hypertext, it's DECORATED DIRECTORIES! -- Ted Nelson

Genius! So is there also unplanned engineering work, where the navvies
just bundle past the platform staff and fix things before anyone can stop
them, then?

Unplanned engineering work is where something fails (such as the
signal failure at Victoria yesterday) and staff have to go down to fix
the failure. Proper protection for staff on the track has to be put
in place, they don't just "bundle down and fix things before anyone
can stop them".
The defective train was later on, around 13.30ish IIRC. It had to be
pushed out (i.e. pushed by another train).