"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
...

Given it combines three unfashionable concepts, I'm sure it is only a
matter of time before it becomes the Oppressed Indigenous Persons'
Conflict-Resolution Interactive Visitor Experience. Or something.

LOL. Submitted to alt.humor.best-of-usenet

Ian

On Feb 23, 5:13 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
umpston wrote:
On Feb 23, 4:17 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
I notice that the announcement was about "London's transport museum"
and not the "London Transport museum". Bah.
It is a museum about transport in London so "London Transport Museum"
remained apt even after LT ceased to exist.

Yeah, but the OP said "London Transport museum" [sic].

It was a pointless change of name.

I agree but it's equally pointless to complain about it.
--
Michael Hoffman

I was merely commenting on your specious argument which seemed to be
in defence of the newer name.

On Feb 24, 1:18 am, " wrote:
On Feb 23, 4:27?pm, "John Rowland"

wrote:
Michael Hoffman wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:

And I notice that the announcement was about "London's transport
museum" and not the "London Transport museum". ?Bah.

Well, it is not a museum that is strictly about London Transport,
which no longer exists.

I guess they should rename the Imperial War Museum then.

I agree that dark forces probably want to rename the Imperial War
Museum (like the Imperial War Graves Commission was renamed the
Commonwealth War Graves Commission in the 1960s), but that would be a
mistake since the wars which are remembered and exhibited there are
from the Imperial era.

Likewise the Order of the British Empire was founded in 1902 at the
height of the Empire and the medals of the order bear the insignia of
Edward VII who was monarch at the time, and it would be an insult to
and denial of history to rename it now.

Similarly, it was a silly act of vandalism to rename the London
Transport Museum just because London Transport happened to cease to
exist (itself a silly act of vandalism). How many people, when
referring to a London bus say "a Transport for London bus" as opposed
to a "London Transport bus" even nowadays?

Marc.

I agree with you about the LT museum but not about the rest. The War
Graves Commission was renamed after the the Imperial system of
government had ceased to exist for the represented countries. The
British Empire was already in terminal decline by the time of WWII.

I would also support a new system of honours which makes no mention of
the former empire. Although the empire will always be a part of our
history and heritage I see no point in continuing to celebrate it as
if it still existed. There is no insult or dishonour to previous
recipients of the various 'Empire' medals since there is no need to
abolish or rename previous honours, just create some new ones for
future recipients. Like Edward VII did in 1902.

umpston wrote:
On Feb 23, 5:13 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
umpston wrote:
On Feb 23, 4:17 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
I notice that the announcement was about "London's transport museum"
and not the "London Transport museum". Bah.
It is a museum about transport in London so "London Transport Museum"
remained apt even after LT ceased to exist.
Yeah, but the OP said "London Transport museum" [sic].

It was a pointless change of name.

I agree but it's equally pointless to complain about it.
--
Michael Hoffman

I was merely commenting on your specious argument which seemed to be
in defence of the newer name.

Since it wasn't in defence of the new name, it is specious to make such
a comment.
--
Michael Hoffman

On Feb 25, 6:19 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
umpston wrote:
On Feb 23, 5:13 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
umpston wrote:
On Feb 23, 4:17 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
I notice that the announcement was about "London's transport museum"
and not the "London Transport museum". Bah.
It is a museum about transport in London so "London Transport Museum"
remained apt even after LT ceased to exist.
Yeah, but the OP said "London Transport museum" [sic].

It was a pointless change of name.

I agree but it's equally pointless to complain about it.
--
Michael Hoffman

I was merely commenting on your specious argument which seemed to be
in defence of the newer name.

Since it wasn't in defence of the new name, it is specious to make such
a comment.
--
Michael Hoffman

Well I certainly missed your point then. What was it?

umpston wrote:
On Feb 25, 6:19 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
umpston wrote:
On Feb 23, 5:13 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
umpston wrote:
On Feb 23, 4:17 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
I notice that the announcement was about "London's transport museum"
and not the "London Transport museum". Bah.
It is a museum about transport in London so "London Transport Museum"
remained apt even after LT ceased to exist.
Yeah, but the OP said "London Transport museum" [sic].
It was a pointless change of name.
I agree but it's equally pointless to complain about it.
--
Michael Hoffman
I was merely commenting on your specious argument which seemed to be
in defence of the newer name.
Since it wasn't in defence of the new name, it is specious to make such
a comment.
--
Michael Hoffman

Well I certainly missed your point then. What was it?

A silly joke about the difference between the "London Transport museum"
[sic] and the "London Transport Museum."
--
Michael Hoffman

On Feb 25, 4:44�pm, "umpston" wrote:
On Feb 24, 1:18 am, " wrote:





On Feb 23, 4:27?pm, "John Rowland"

wrote:
Michael Hoffman wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:

And I notice that the announcement was about "London's transport
museum" and not the "London Transport museum". ?Bah.

Well, it is not a museum that is strictly about London Transport,
which no longer exists.

I guess they should rename the Imperial War Museum then.

I agree that dark forces probably want to rename the Imperial War
Museum (like the Imperial War Graves Commission was renamed the
Commonwealth War Graves Commission in the 1960s), but that would be a
mistake since the wars which are remembered and exhibited there are
from the Imperial era.

Likewise the Order of the British Empire was founded in 1902 at the
height of the Empire and the medals of the order bear the insignia of
Edward VII who was monarch at the time, and it would be an insult to
and denial of history to rename it now.

Similarly, it was a silly act of vandalism to rename the London
Transport Museum just because London Transport happened to cease to
exist (itself a silly act of vandalism). How many people, when
referring to a London bus say "a Transport for London bus" as opposed
to a "London Transport bus" even nowadays?

Marc.

I agree with you about the LT museum but not about the rest. *The War
Graves Commission was renamed after the the Imperial system of
government had ceased to exist for the represented countries. *The
British Empire was already in terminal decline by the time of WWII.

I would also support a new system of honours which makes no mention of
the former empire. *Although the empire will always be a part of our
history and heritage I see no point in continuing to celebrate it as
if it still existed. *There is no insult or dishonour to previous
recipients of the various 'Empire' medals since there is no need to
abolish or rename previous honours, just create some new ones for
future recipients. *Like Edward VII did in 1902.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So what would you choose as (a) the new name for the Imperial War
Museum and (b) the replacement for the Order of the British Empire?

Just curious!

I see no need to change names for change's sake, and since honours are
archaic and pertaining to history by their very nature (e.g. very few
women and even fewer men wear garters in the 21st Century!), and
nobody but a fool could forget, with the ritualistic self-flagellation
indulged by the intelligentsia in the media and elsewhere that the
British Empire was the most evil concept since Original Sin, perhaps
it does no harm to keep us all in mind of that most ignominious period
of our history lest we should ever be tempted to repeat it!

Just joking!

Marc.

On Feb 25, 9:43 pm, " wrote:
On Feb 25, 4:44?pm, "umpston" wrote:



On Feb 24, 1:18 am, " wrote:

On Feb 23, 4:27?pm, "John Rowland"

wrote:
Michael Hoffman wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:

And I notice that the announcement was about "London's transport
museum" and not the "London Transport museum". ?Bah.

Well, it is not a museum that is strictly about London Transport,
which no longer exists.

I guess they should rename the Imperial War Museum then.

I agree that dark forces probably want to rename the Imperial War
Museum (like the Imperial War Graves Commission was renamed the
Commonwealth War Graves Commission in the 1960s), but that would be a
mistake since the wars which are remembered and exhibited there are
from the Imperial era.

Likewise the Order of the British Empire was founded in 1902 at the
height of the Empire and the medals of the order bear the insignia of
Edward VII who was monarch at the time, and it would be an insult to
and denial of history to rename it now.

Similarly, it was a silly act of vandalism to rename the London
Transport Museum just because London Transport happened to cease to
exist (itself a silly act of vandalism). How many people, when
referring to a London bus say "a Transport for London bus" as opposed
to a "London Transport bus" even nowadays?

Marc.

I agree with you about the LT museum but not about the rest. ?The War
Graves Commission was renamed after the the Imperial system of
government had ceased to exist for the represented countries. ?The
British Empire was already in terminal decline by the time of WWII.

I would also support a new system of honours which makes no mention of
the former empire. ?Although the empire will always be a part of our
history and heritage I see no point in continuing to celebrate it as
if it still existed. ?There is no insult or dishonour to previous
recipients of the various 'Empire' medals since there is no need to
abolish or rename previous honours, just create some new ones for
future recipients. ?Like Edward VII did in 1902.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So what would you choose as (a) the new name for the Imperial War
Museum and (b) the replacement for the Order of the British Empire?

Just curious!

I see no need to change names for change's sake, and since honours are
archaic and pertaining to history by their very nature (e.g. very few
women and even fewer men wear garters in the 21st Century!), and
nobody but a fool could forget, with the ritualistic self-flagellation
indulged by the intelligentsia in the media and elsewhere that the
British Empire was the most evil concept since Original Sin, perhaps
it does no harm to keep us all in mind of that most ignominious period
of our history lest we should ever be tempted to repeat it!

Just joking!

Marc.

A sobering thought! Like you I dislike change purely for the sake of
it and see no point in changing the name of the Imperial War Museum
since, unlike the War Graves Commission, no other countries are
responsible for running it.

Changing the honours system would be worth it since these awards are
supposed to be given in recognition of the great things people are
doing now. They are devalued by their association with our vanished
imperial past, as well as by political sleaze, but that is another
subject off-topic for this news group.

wrote:

(a) the new name for the Imperial War Museum

National War Museum...

and (b) the replacement for the Order of the British Empire?

Order of the British Nation.

Given that London is a major international tourist destination, and
having noticed many tourists staring in bewilderment at the line
diagrams in the trains, I think it's likely that many passengers do
appreciate being told the next station name in advance. There are many
examples of over-provision in announcements, but this isn't one of them.

But if you're going somewhere, do you just get on a train and hope
someone will announce where you've got to get off? Whenever I've been
somewhere I've researched in a guide book or online to find the
nearest station. It's rather like announcing where you can change for
other lines, surely you'd plan your journey beforehand and work out
yourself where you've got to change.