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[email protected] March 5th 07 03:00 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
Wonder if any of you kind Londoners can help me out here.

As someone who visits London frequently, I already have an
(unregistered) Oyster card, which I top up from time to time with
little bits of cash here and there. In a couple of weeks though, I'll
be going to London for a work-related visit.

To save money, I'm intending to use the Oyster card. Is there a way I
can get a print-out of my journey history, to show to my boss, so I
can claim expenses back? Do I have to register my card for this, or
can I obtain a print-out from a ticket office, or from one of the
machines?

I had a look through all 200 questions on the FAQ on the Transport for
London website, but couldn't find anything which answered my question!


Michael Hoffman March 5th 07 04:02 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
wrote:
Wonder if any of you kind Londoners can help me out here.

As someone who visits London frequently, I already have an
(unregistered) Oyster card, which I top up from time to time with
little bits of cash here and there. In a couple of weeks though, I'll
be going to London for a work-related visit.

To save money, I'm intending to use the Oyster card. Is there a way I
can get a print-out of my journey history, to show to my boss, so I
can claim expenses back? Do I have to register my card for this, or
can I obtain a print-out from a ticket office, or from one of the
machines?


You can get receipts for all the credit you add on at a ticket office.
Does your boss really require more detailed proof of where you went?
--
Michael Hoffman

Dr Ivan D. Reid March 5th 07 04:39 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
On 5 Mar 2007 08:00:54 -0800,

wrote in om:

As someone who visits London frequently, I already have an
(unregistered) Oyster card, which I top up from time to time with
little bits of cash here and there. In a couple of weeks though, I'll
be going to London for a work-related visit.


To save money, I'm intending to use the Oyster card. Is there a way I
can get a print-out of my journey history, to show to my boss, so I
can claim expenses back? Do I have to register my card for this, or
can I obtain a print-out from a ticket office, or from one of the
machines?


You can get a printout at a ticket office, but only for the last
8 journeys (you can look at them on a ticket machine too, but not
print them). Try to make sure the agent understands you just want the
journey history printout, otherwise you get a detailed listing as long as
your arm.

--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.
] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Walter Briscoe March 5th 07 05:16 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
In message of Mon, 5 Mar 2007
17:02:44 in uk.transport.london, Michael Hoffman
writes
wrote:
Wonder if any of you kind Londoners can help me out here.
As someone who visits London frequently, I already have an
(unregistered) Oyster card, which I top up from time to time with


I suggest you register it unless you suffer from paranoia. The police
and similar authorities have access to any records about you that TfL
maintains. If paranoid, I suggest a niqab to counter cameras. ;)

little bits of cash here and there. In a couple of weeks though, I'll
be going to London for a work-related visit.
To save money, I'm intending to use the Oyster card. Is there a way
I
can get a print-out of my journey history, to show to my boss, so I
can claim expenses back? Do I have to register my card for this, or
can I obtain a print-out from a ticket office, or from one of the
machines?


You can get receipts for all the credit you add on at a ticket office.
Does your boss really require more detailed proof of where you went?


Should you succeed in finding an open ticket office, you can get a
statement of recent card usage. "recent" is a term analogous to "piece
of string". If you put auto top up on the card, you can get a statement
on the oyster web site. The format is difficult as debits and credits
are not conventionally distinguished. With luck, somebody who REALLY
understands this (Paul C?) might give a coherent explanation.
--
Walter Briscoe

Neil Williams March 5th 07 08:25 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
wrote:

You can get a printout at a ticket office, but only for the last
8 journeys (you can look at them on a ticket machine too, but not
print them). Try to make sure the agent understands you just want the
journey history printout, otherwise you get a detailed listing as long as
your arm.


They could do with adding it to the machines - it could be printed on
a ticket blank. Would save queueing up.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Dr Ivan D. Reid March 5th 07 08:32 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:25:57 GMT, Neil Williams
wrote in :
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
wrote:


You can get a printout at a ticket office, but only for the last
8 journeys (you can look at them on a ticket machine too, but not
print them). Try to make sure the agent understands you just want the
journey history printout, otherwise you get a detailed listing as long as
your arm.


They could do with adding it to the machines - it could be printed on
a ticket blank. Would save queueing up.


I've often thought that meself. There must be some difficulty --
or a lack of will. It'd save me some time, as I often need the printouts
for expenses (tho' I tend not to go out of my way for mere bus journeys,
CCLRC has yet to reject a claim).

--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Richard J. March 5th 07 08:50 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
wrote:

You can get a printout at a ticket office, but only for the last
8 journeys (you can look at them on a ticket machine too, but not
print them). Try to make sure the agent understands you just want
the journey history printout, otherwise you get a detailed listing
as long as your arm.


They could do with adding it to the machines - it could be printed
on a ticket blank. Would save queueing up.


You can get the information online if you register the Oyster card and
open an online account. See
https://sales.oystercard.com/oyster/...method=display

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Joyce Whitchurch March 5th 07 10:47 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
wrote:

To save money, I'm intending to use the Oyster card. Is there a way I
can get a print-out of my journey history, to show to my boss, so I
can claim expenses back?


I also have this problem. To get round it, I have two Oyster cards, one
for personal use and one for business use. Every time I top up the
business one, I get a receipt and I claim that back on expenses.

Now you're wondering how I remember which one is which. So did I, till
I put a sticky label on the business one.
--
Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
=================================

Colin Rosenstiel March 5th 07 11:49 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
In article om,
() wrote:

Wonder if any of you kind Londoners can help me out here.

As someone who visits London frequently, I already have an
(unregistered) Oyster card, which I top up from time to time with
little bits of cash here and there. In a couple of weeks though,
I'll be going to London for a work-related visit.

To save money, I'm intending to use the Oyster card. Is there a
way I can get a print-out of my journey history, to show to my boss,
so I can claim expenses back? Do I have to register my card for
this, or can I obtain a print-out from a ticket office, or from one
of the machines?

I had a look through all 200 questions on the FAQ on the Transport
for London website, but couldn't find anything which answered my
question!


I may use my Oyster on expenses less often than you but my practice is to
add credit to it at the start of the day when I'm using it on expenses.
Doing it in cash at a ticket office means I can get change (usually I'm
adding £3 for two Zone 1 journeys and don't have change for a fiver) and
a receipt. If I'm making more journeys it's usually better for me to get
a Day Travelcard though occasionally I stay overnight and don't cycle and
need a couple of Zones 1 & 2 journeys. I keep a balance of £1.50 on the
card between uses so that I don't have to queue at the first ticket
office I get to, usually King's Cross.

I see no reason to register my card.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

asdf March 6th 07 08:18 AM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:16:23 +0000, Walter Briscoe wrote:

I suggest you register it unless you suffer from paranoia. The police
and similar authorities have access to any records about you that TfL
maintains.


Erm, surely that's a reason *not* to register it?

Helen Deborah Vecht March 6th 07 08:46 AM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
If you register your Oyster and set up an online account, paying for
your credit online, you can get a journey history from the comfort of
your own home.

Journeys take a few days to appear on the website.

No use if you're paranoid though.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Tim March 6th 07 03:10 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
wrote:
As someone who visits London frequently, I already have an
(unregistered) Oyster card, which I top up from time to time with
little bits of cash here and there. In a couple of weeks though, I'll
be going to London for a work-related visit.



I always guess how much I am about to use, and top up by about that amount.

Press the receipt button on the machine when doing the top-up.

Then just hand the top up receipt in on expenses.

Tim

James Farrar March 6th 07 04:09 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:18:55 +0000, asdf
wrote:

On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:16:23 +0000, Walter Briscoe wrote:

I suggest you register it unless you suffer from paranoia. The police
and similar authorities have access to any records about you that TfL
maintains.


Erm, surely that's a reason *not* to register it?


Only if you are paranoid.

Neil Williams March 6th 07 06:18 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:47:08 +0000, Joyce Whitchurch
wrote:

I also have this problem. To get round it, I have two Oyster cards, one
for personal use and one for business use. Every time I top up the
business one, I get a receipt and I claim that back on expenses.


I'd do that if I used TfL services for business often enough. As it
is I just tend to expense cash fares even if they are a rip-off.

Of course, the annoyance of this is that with two cards you'd lose the
ability to just whack your wallet on the reader!

It'd be sufficient if you could get a printout from the ticket machine
(to save queueing time).

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Michael Hoffman March 6th 07 07:26 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:47:08 +0000, Joyce Whitchurch
wrote:

I also have this problem. To get round it, I have two Oyster cards, one
for personal use and one for business use. Every time I top up the
business one, I get a receipt and I claim that back on expenses.


I'd do that if I used TfL services for business often enough. As it
is I just tend to expense cash fares even if they are a rip-off.


Any sane organization would allow you to expense the Oyster card,
considering that will save money over even two cash fares.
--
Michael Hoffman

Mike Bristow March 6th 07 08:36 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
In article ,
asdf wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:16:23 +0000, Walter Briscoe wrote:

I suggest you register it unless you suffer from paranoia. The police
and similar authorities have access to any records about you that TfL
maintains.


Erm, surely that's a reason *not* to register it?


Not really. If the police start asking questions in a /really/
serious manner, they'll take you into custody. At which point
the custody sgt will catalogue the items in your possesion,
including the unregistered oyster in your pocket.

Um... I'd've thought.

--
Shenanigans! Shenanigans! Best of 3!
-- Flash


Arthur Figgis March 6th 07 09:55 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
Michael Hoffman wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:47:08 +0000, Joyce Whitchurch
wrote:

I also have this problem. To get round it, I have two Oyster cards,
one for personal use and one for business use. Every time I top up
the business one, I get a receipt and I claim that back on expenses.


I'd do that if I used TfL services for business often enough. As it
is I just tend to expense cash fares even if they are a rip-off.


Any sane organization would allow you to expense the Oyster card,
considering that will save money over even two cash fares.


Yes, any _sane_ one would.


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Michael Hoffman March 6th 07 10:22 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
Arthur Figgis wrote:
Michael Hoffman wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:47:08 +0000, Joyce Whitchurch
wrote:

I also have this problem. To get round it, I have two Oyster cards,
one for personal use and one for business use. Every time I top up
the business one, I get a receipt and I claim that back on expenses.

I'd do that if I used TfL services for business often enough. As it
is I just tend to expense cash fares even if they are a rip-off.


Any sane organization would allow you to expense the Oyster card,
considering that will save money over even two cash fares.


Yes, any _sane_ one would.


That point did not escape me. ;)
--
Michael Hoffman

asdf March 6th 07 10:37 PM

Oyster card journeys on expenses
 
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:36:45 +0000 (UTC), Mike Bristow wrote:

I suggest you register it unless you suffer from paranoia. The police
and similar authorities have access to any records about you that TfL
maintains.


Erm, surely that's a reason *not* to register it?


Not really. If the police start asking questions in a /really/
serious manner, they'll take you into custody. At which point
the custody sgt will catalogue the items in your possesion,
including the unregistered oyster in your pocket.


Well, yes, that's one scenario where not registering it doesn't help.
But it does stop anyone with access to the system saying to themselves
"Hmmm, wonder what Mike Bristow has been up to lately..." types in
name click click "Ah, here we have his every movement for the
last 2 years" (etc)


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