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Picked up a fare (in my London taxi) to Buckhurst Hill in Essex on
Thursday night. Lady about 30 years old. On the way she goes on about how we are polluting the planet and must do something to stop greenhouse gases as we (the human race) are responsible for Global Warming. I agree that we pollute the planet, that the planet is getting warmer, but state that there is no absolute certainty that GW is man made and that it *could* just be part of a natural process.At this she goes on about how it *is* caused by us and that everyone *must* do something or we will all suffer due to GW. Then we get near her home. There is a fairly steep hill with lots of speed humps in it to get to her turning. Then she says that she drives along this road nearly every day. I ask her why she does this as it's not too far to walk to the nearby station. Her reply? "I walk to the station when I go to work but I use the car when I go to the gym" You could have blown me down with a feather! I asked why she couldn't walk or cycle to the gym and her reply was "It's too dangerous to do that around here" From the way she said that I inferred that she meant there was a likelihood of being attached by muggers. This was possibly more imaginary than real. However, this was her justification for using a car to go to the gym - a non essential journey if ever there was one. Seems that many people pay lip service to the idea of being less polluting just as long as it doesn't interfere with their lifestyle ! For the record I'm quite happy to try to reduce my pollution by not being an 'aggressive' driver, not accelerating too hard, and looking ahead so that I don't have to brake too hard. It not only makes good sense from a pollution point of view, it also makes economic sense as I use less fuel and get greater mileage from my brake pads. My wife is good at recycling most things from our family waste. Our personal 'carbon footprint' is getting less, but I believe that there is currently too much emphasis on this and not enough on other aspects of pollution, which may cause us more damage than any (natural) warming may do. I wait for the usual rant from Duhg but There must be some of you who can put forward intelligent opinions. -- Mike Hughes A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England |
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![]() "Mike Hughes" wrote in message ... Picked up a fare (in my London taxi) to Buckhurst Hill in Essex on Thursday night. Lady about 30 years old. On the way she goes on about how we are polluting the planet and must do something to stop greenhouse gases as we (the human race) are responsible for Global Warming. I agree that we pollute the planet, that the planet is getting warmer, but state that there is no absolute certainty that GW is man made and that it *could* just be part of a natural process.At this she goes on about how it *is* caused by us and that everyone *must* do something or we will all suffer due to GW. Then we get near her home. There is a fairly steep hill with lots of speed humps in it to get to her turning. Then she says that she drives along this road nearly every day. I ask her why she does this as it's not too far to walk to the nearby station. Her reply? "I walk to the station when I go to work but I use the car when I go to the gym" You could have blown me down with a feather! I asked why she couldn't walk or cycle to the gym and her reply was "It's too dangerous to do that around here" From the way she said that I inferred that she meant there was a likelihood of being attached by muggers. This was possibly more imaginary than real. However, this was her justification for using a car to go to the gym - a non essential journey if ever there was one. Seems that many people pay lip service to the idea of being less polluting just as long as it doesn't interfere with their lifestyle ! For the record I'm quite happy to try to reduce my pollution by not being an 'aggressive' driver, not accelerating too hard, and looking ahead so that I don't have to brake too hard. It not only makes good sense from a pollution point of view, it also makes economic sense as I use less fuel and get greater mileage from my brake pads. My wife is good at recycling most things from our family waste. Our personal 'carbon footprint' is getting less, but I believe that there is currently too much emphasis on this and not enough on other aspects of pollution, which may cause us more damage than any (natural) warming may do. I wait for the usual rant from Duhg but There must be some of you who can put forward intelligent opinions. You make good points, especially about the hypocritical passenger. |
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On 16 Mar, 08:52, Mike Hughes wrote:
...I believe that there is currently too much emphasis on this and not enough on other aspects of pollution, which may cause us more damage than any (natural) warming may do. Hear hear! I consider GW to be what Hitchcock would call a 'MacGuffin' - a diversionary tactic dressed up as the most important detail (not that I'm one for conspiracy theories, but...) I do think that if there wasn't so much GW propaganda about, more people would be more concerned about the state of the country's balance sheet, especially pensions, education and healthcare. (I'm a cause-of-climate change sceptic, BTW. Clearly it's happening, but what's the actual cause? (Nature, in my humble opinion) There's far more real concerns to keep us occupied, but as is human nature we tend to focus, or are made to focus, on the ones we can do least about). Anyway, to bring it back on to topic, I'm now going to Manchester city centre. I'm going to drive to Cornbrook metrolink station, park there and use the tram to get into the city - contributing to a decrease in city centre congestions and exhaust emissions and enrich the local economy with the financial support of the public transport system. I just hope my car doesn't get ****ing vandalised in the car park again. |
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On 16 Mar, 10:09, "Brimstone" wrote:
.. I just hope my car doesn't get ****ing vandalised in the car park again. Try driving something more pikey? Seems to make little difference, pikey cars are usually easier for kids to joyride, less sophisticated security. |
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On 16 Mar, 10:09, "Brimstone" wrote:
Try driving something more pikey? It's a 9 year old Skoda! |
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On Mar 16, 10:01 am, wrote:
concerned about the state of the country's balance sheet, especially pensions, education and healthcare. If global warming (whatever the cause) really kicks in there'll be a lot more important things to worry about than the above - like famine in europe and mass migration north from africa and the med region for example. but what's the actual cause? (Nature, in my humble opinion) There's far more real concerns to keep us occupied, but as is human nature we I'm not sure how much more "real" you can get that the state of the planet we all live and depend on. Pensions , education etc are all rather contrived in comparison I would have thought and will be irrelevant anyway if theres an economic collapse brought on by climate change. B2003 |
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On Mar 16, 12:35 pm, "Boltar" wrote:
On Mar 16, 10:01 am, wrote: concerned about the state of the country's balance sheet, especially pensions, education and healthcare. If global warming (whatever the cause) really kicks in there'll be a lot more important things to worry about than the above - like famine in europe and mass migration north from africa and the med region for example. given the range of projections that might not happen; you might see the warmer weather of 1-2 degrees increasing food yields. Fod |
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On Mar 16, 1:18 pm, "Fod" wrote:
On Mar 16, 12:35 pm, "Boltar" wrote: On Mar 16, 10:01 am, wrote: concerned about the state of the country's balance sheet, especially pensions, education and healthcare. If global warming (whatever the cause) really kicks in there'll be a lot more important things to worry about than the above - like famine in europe and mass migration north from africa and the med region for example. given the range of projections that might not happen; you might see the warmer weather of 1-2 degrees increasing food yields. If that were the case then shouldn't the med and northern africa be the bread basket of europe? B2003 |
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