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Nes August 10th 03 06:16 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
Hey all,

I was wondering whether to get an Annual Bus Pass usnig an Oyster Card... it
all looks good, but the web site doesn't answer some of my queries and,
rather than waiting a long time for them to respond, I thought I'd ask the
experts first!

So, you get the Oyster Card. Do you use your existing photo card with it, or
do you have to get a new one?

I've seen people touch their cards on the readers at tubs stations and on
the buses... How do you show it to a conductor? Will he have a card reader
on his ticket machine or something?

Come to think of it, what about if a Revenue Protection team boards the bus?
How do they check the card?

Hmmm, that's it for now, thanks in advance for your help!

Regards,
Nestor.
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Neil August 10th 03 07:45 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
"Nes" wrote in message
...

So, you get the Oyster Card. Do you use your existing photo card with it,

or
do you have to get a new one?


You use your existing Photocard; the website asks you for your Photocard
number when you order your Oyster card.

I've seen people touch their cards on the readers at tubs stations and on
the buses... How do you show it to a conductor? Will he have a card reader
on his ticket machine or something?

Come to think of it, what about if a Revenue Protection team boards the

bus?
How do they check the card?


Supposedly everyone who ever needs to read your card will eventually have a
handheld reader, although I haven't seen one yet. If they can't check your
card then they'll have to take your word for it that it's valid, as it's
hardly your fault that they can't read a ticket their own company has
issued!



Mike Bristow August 11th 03 02:22 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
In article ,
Neil wrote:
Supposedly everyone who ever needs to read your card will eventually have a
handheld reader, although I haven't seen one yet. If they can't check your
card then they'll have to take your word for it that it's valid, as it's
hardly your fault that they can't read a ticket their own company has
issued!


I /think/ I've seen one on the GOBLIN. Or at least, it was a guard
with a new ticket machine (blue, rather than gray). I didn't notice
an oyster reader on it, but I was about half a carriage away.


Bart August 11th 03 03:06 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
Does anyone have any idea when South West Trains at Waterloo will be
able to start issuing season tickets on Oystercard?

Regards,
Bart


On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC), "Neil"
wrote:

"Nes" wrote in message
...

So, you get the Oyster Card. Do you use your existing photo card with it,

or
do you have to get a new one?


You use your existing Photocard; the website asks you for your Photocard
number when you order your Oyster card.

I've seen people touch their cards on the readers at tubs stations and on
the buses... How do you show it to a conductor? Will he have a card reader
on his ticket machine or something?

Come to think of it, what about if a Revenue Protection team boards the

bus?
How do they check the card?


Supposedly everyone who ever needs to read your card will eventually have a
handheld reader, although I haven't seen one yet. If they can't check your
card then they'll have to take your word for it that it's valid, as it's
hardly your fault that they can't read a ticket their own company has
issued!




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Dave August 11th 03 03:37 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
Bart writes
Does anyone have any idea when South West Trains at Waterloo will be
able to start issuing season tickets on Oystercard?


Not for a long, long time.

At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents. I reckon NR
stations will be the last to offer Oyster (if at all).

--
Dave

K August 11th 03 04:42 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:37:12 +0100, Dave
wrote:

Bart writes
Does anyone have any idea when South West Trains at Waterloo will be
able to start issuing season tickets on Oystercard?


Not for a long, long time.


How long is that :-)

At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents.



This is due later this year, isn't it?

I reckon NR stations will be the last to offer Oyster (if at all).


Apparantly some already have the necessary equipment e.g. Richmond


Dave August 11th 03 04:49 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
K writes
I reckon NR stations will be the last to offer Oyster (if at all).


Apparantly some already have the necessary equipment e.g. Richmond


Which also just happens to be the terminus of an LU line...

--
Dave

James Farrar August 11th 03 06:21 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
K wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:37:12 +0100, Dave
wrote:


At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents.


This is due later this year, isn't it?


According to the TfL page in the Metro, the stored-value Oyster will be
added in 2004.


Martin Rich August 11th 03 09:29 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC), "Neil"
wrote:


Supposedly everyone who ever needs to read your card will eventually have a
handheld reader, although I haven't seen one yet. If they can't check your
card then they'll have to take your word for it that it's valid, as it's
hardly your fault that they can't read a ticket their own company has
issued!


On two rides so far on Routemasters with an Oyster card (both 19s) the
conductor has just glanced at it quickly. I think they can ask to see
the little printed record card that comes with the Oyster card and
explains its validity.

So far I haven't seen many other people using them, though I noticed
somebody else with an Oyster card get on a W7 in front of me on
Friday. Maybe we early adopters should have some sort of fraternal
greeting when we meet one another?

Martin

Neil Williams August 11th 03 09:44 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:29:19 +0100, Martin Rich
wrote:

On two rides so far on Routemasters with an Oyster card (both 19s) the
conductor has just glanced at it quickly. I think they can ask to see
the little printed record card that comes with the Oyster card and
explains its validity.


That's how it's done in Milton Keynes if the bus isn't equipped with a
reader or it's broken (more often than not, unfortunately) - though to
avoid delays drivers often just wave people through when they produce
a smart card in these situations.

Neil


Neil August 11th 03 10:18 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
"Martin Rich" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC), "Neil"
wrote:


Supposedly everyone who ever needs to read your card will eventually have

a
handheld reader, although I haven't seen one yet. If they can't check

your
card then they'll have to take your word for it that it's valid, as it's
hardly your fault that they can't read a ticket their own company has
issued!


On two rides so far on Routemasters with an Oyster card (both 19s) the
conductor has just glanced at it quickly. I think they can ask to see
the little printed record card that comes with the Oyster card and
explains its validity.


You don't get another record card when you add any tickets after the first
to your Oyster.



Neil August 11th 03 10:43 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
Neil wrote:

You don't get another record card when you add any tickets after the

first
to your Oyster.


Also my experience, but surely you should...


It'd make sense given that you get one for the first ticket, although it
would virtually defeat the object of the Oyster card; if they were to send
you a record card each time you bought a new ticket, they might as well send
you a magnetic stripe ticket each time!



Daniel August 12th 03 07:04 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
"Neil" wrote in message ...
"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
Neil wrote:

You don't get another record card when you add any tickets after the

first
to your Oyster.


Also my experience, but surely you should...


It'd make sense given that you get one for the first ticket, although it
would virtually defeat the object of the Oyster card; if they were to send
you a record card each time you bought a new ticket, they might as well send
you a magnetic stripe ticket each time!


What I don't get is that I've just bought a new annual ticket to
replace my monthly. I need the gold record card to obtain my 33%
discount on NR services e.t.c, but they say they can't provide it. I'm
not in a heated debate with LU about why they expect me to send in all
my old tickets for refund of the overpayment.

Talk about bad planning!

Rupert Goodwins August 12th 03 08:48 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:37:12 +0100, Dave
wrote:

Bart writes
Does anyone have any idea when South West Trains at Waterloo will be
able to start issuing season tickets on Oystercard?


Not for a long, long time.

At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents. I reckon NR
stations will be the last to offer Oyster (if at all).



And what happens if you have a yearly ticket -- the Gold Card,
although I don't know if it's still called that -- and want to get
discounts at mainline stations?

R


spammy August 12th 03 08:54 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
"Martin Rich" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC), "Neil"
wrote:


Supposedly everyone who ever needs to read your card will eventually have

a
handheld reader, although I haven't seen one yet. If they can't check

your
card then they'll have to take your word for it that it's valid, as it's
hardly your fault that they can't read a ticket their own company has
issued!


On two rides so far on Routemasters with an Oyster card (both 19s) the
conductor has just glanced at it quickly. I think they can ask to see
the little printed record card that comes with the Oyster card and
explains its validity.


im pretty sure the documentation explicitly states not to carry that around
wth you unless its a gold card...im not anyway.



Matthew Malthouse August 12th 03 10:45 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:48:25 GMT Rupert Goodwins wrote:
} On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:37:12 +0100, Dave
} wrote:
}
} Bart writes
} Does anyone have any idea when South West Trains at Waterloo will be
} able to start issuing season tickets on Oystercard?
}
} Not for a long, long time.
}
} At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
} Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
} weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents. I reckon NR
} stations will be the last to offer Oyster (if at all).
}
} And what happens if you have a yearly ticket -- the Gold Card,
} although I don't know if it's still called that -- and want to get
} discounts at mainline stations?

That's one of the things the record card issued with the Oyster is for.

Matthew
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spammy August 13th 03 09:12 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
Slightly different issue here...

Last night I hopped onto the DLR at WIQ on the way home, part way of which
Id have to use the Central Line.

I was half expecting to use the standalone Oyster validators on the
Westbound platform at Stratford to simulate an "entry" on my Oystercard - I
was afraid that I wouldnt be allowed out at my destination station if I
didnt (since I had read that you NEED to use the Oyster on entry AND exit,
regardless of whether the gates were open).

The validators at Stratford didnt work - they seemed to be switched off. The
gates at my destination were open anyway, but on scanning my Oyster they
gave me green (so I assume Id be able to get out if they were shut anyway).

Do Travelcard Oysters need to be scanned on exit and entry?



David Walters August 13th 03 10:00 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:12:09 +0100, spammy wrote:
The validators at Stratford didnt work - they seemed to be switched off. The
gates at my destination were open anyway, but on scanning my Oyster they
gave me green (so I assume Id be able to get out if they were shut anyway).


All the validators seem to be off. I expect they will stay that way
until shortly before stored value gets introduced. Of course that
will require validators at all station entrances which still hasn't
happened :-(

Do Travelcard Oysters need to be scanned on exit and entry?


No, but TFL seem to encourage you to do so as it probably helps
their stats.

David

spammy August 13th 03 10:18 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
"David Walters" wrote in message
...

Do Travelcard Oysters need to be scanned on exit and entry?


No, but TFL seem to encourage you to do so as it probably helps
their stats.


oh. how does such a route appear on your travel record? actually, i guess i
can check myself....



K August 13th 03 12:53 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:21:44 +0100, James Farrar
wrote:

K wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:37:12 +0100, Dave
wrote:


At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents.


This is due later this year, isn't it?


According to the TfL page in the Metro, the stored-value Oyster will be
added in 2004.


We aren't talking about SV cards, though, or are we ?!?? I thought we
were talking about travelcard types being available elsewhere?

K August 13th 03 12:55 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:29:19 +0100, Martin Rich
wrote:


On two rides so far on Routemasters with an Oyster card (both 19s) the
conductor has just glanced at it quickly. I think they can ask to see
the little printed record card that comes with the Oyster card and
explains its validity.


I don't think you have to carry that with you though? It their fault
if they don't have the necessary equipment to check them!

Dave August 13th 03 01:11 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
K writes
At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents.

This is due later this year, isn't it?


According to the TfL page in the Metro, the stored-value Oyster will be
added in 2004.


We aren't talking about SV cards, though, or are we ?!?? I thought we
were talking about travelcard types being available elsewhere?


Clearly both.

--
Dave

K August 14th 03 11:42 AM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:11:38 +0100, Dave
wrote:

K writes
At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents.

This is due later this year, isn't it?

According to the TfL page in the Metro, the stored-value Oyster will be
added in 2004.


We aren't talking about SV cards, though, or are we ?!?? I thought we
were talking about travelcard types being available elsewhere?


Clearly both.


Clearly not! :-) the post specifically asked about travelcards at
Waterloo


Dave August 14th 03 12:08 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
K writes
At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents.

This is due later this year, isn't it?

According to the TfL page in the Metro, the stored-value Oyster will be
added in 2004.

We aren't talking about SV cards, though, or are we ?!?? I thought we
were talking about travelcard types being available elsewhere?


Clearly both.


Clearly not! :-) the post specifically asked about travelcards at
Waterloo


And the thread developed from there into a wider discussion - one that
clearly included stored-value cards.

There's no law that says everyone must stick *precisely* to the subject
raised by the OP.

--
Dave

Kat August 16th 03 06:34 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
(Robin) wrote in message . com...

At the moment they don't but in my experience they just believe you
anyway. My card has failed twice (in one month of daily travel), once
on the tube and once on the bus and just flashing the card got me
through on both occasions. I also bumped into my first tube spot check
last week and again just flashing the card at them seemed to do the
trick.


So you haven't come across the HHR yet....
(Nevermind, you will!)

Kat


Adrian August 19th 03 05:35 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
Dave wrote in message ...
Bart writes
Does anyone have any idea when South West Trains at Waterloo will be
able to start issuing season tickets on Oystercard?


Not for a long, long time.

At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents. I reckon NR
stations will be the last to offer Oyster (if at all).


The facility to add stored value has now been added - used it at the weekend.

A

Steve August 19th 03 06:01 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On 19/8/03 6:35 pm, in article
, "Adrian"
wrote:

Dave wrote in message
...
Bart writes
Does anyone have any idea when South West Trains at Waterloo will be
able to start issuing season tickets on Oystercard?


Not for a long, long time.

At present, you can only buy monthly and annual cards from the website.
Once this part of the 'public trial' is complete, they will be adding
weeklies, stored-value and LU stations/pass agents. I reckon NR
stations will be the last to offer Oyster (if at all).


The facility to add stored value has now been added - used it at the weekend.

A


Let's call it by it's proper name shall we - Pre Pay :)

I didn't realise you could get it now - who, what, how, where, when... ?

Thinking about it though, what use it when you've already got your monthly
or annual ticket anyway? Unless of course your monthly expires so you've got
some 'emergency' funds on the card?


Steve.


Adrian August 19th 03 06:42 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 

James Farrar wrote in message
...
Neil wrote:

You don't get another record card when you add any tickets after the

first
to your Oyster.


Also my experience, but surely you should...


I got one when I renewed my ticked at one of the touch-screen machines in
the tube station...

A

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Neil August 19th 03 06:47 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
"Adrian" wrote in message
...

Was travelling into Zone 1 from Tooting Broadway on Saturday and noticed

the
facility to add pre-pay when buying an ticket at one of the touch screen
machines. After choosing my ticket, the screen gave me the option to "Pay
Using Oystercard". Holding my Oystercard to the reader gave the option of
adding pre-pay (in increments of £5)


So you have to put money on your Oyster, then use that stored money to buy a
physical ticket before you travel? I thought the idea was that the
appropriate amounts of money would just be deducted from your Oyster as and
when you travelled?



Steve August 19th 03 07:46 PM

Oyster Card - how's it work?
 
On 19/8/03 7:47 pm, in article , "Neil"
wrote:

"Adrian" wrote in message
...

Was travelling into Zone 1 from Tooting Broadway on Saturday and noticed

the
facility to add pre-pay when buying an ticket at one of the touch screen
machines. After choosing my ticket, the screen gave me the option to "Pay
Using Oystercard". Holding my Oystercard to the reader gave the option of
adding pre-pay (in increments of £5)


So you have to put money on your Oyster, then use that stored money to buy a
physical ticket before you travel? I thought the idea was that the
appropriate amounts of money would just be deducted from your Oyster as and
when you travelled?



The idea is that you can do either, I think.


Steve.



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