Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

I will be on vacation in London at the end of this month. I arrive to
Heathrow airport and stay in Bayswater inn hotel. Let's just say that $100
price for the taxi trip seems to be somewhat excessive for this New York
resident :D. So I figured I can take a tube.
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk suggested this route (I selected tube only
with least transfers):
=======================
10:00

10:06Heathrow Terminal 2
Walk to Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3
Transfer time:6mins


10:06

10:39Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3 Underground Station
Take the Piccadilly Line towards Arnos Grove
or Piccadilly Line towards Cockfosters

10:45

Earl's Court Underground Station
Take the District Line towards Edgware Road (Circle Line)

Average journey time: 8 mins

10:53Bayswater Underground Station
=======================================

Is this route doable with one large bag on wheels and small backpack? I've
never been to London and don't know how crowded London Tube is. Am I correct
to understand that tube trains run on pre-determined schedule (seems like a
foreign concep to me :D )?

TIA

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

vmnvmcxbv wrote:

Is this route doable with one large bag on wheels and small backpack? I've
never been to London and don't know how crowded London Tube is.


At that time of the day neither of these lines are very crowded in my
experience but there can be a lot of people with large bags filling up
Piccadilly Line trains anyway. The change at Earl's Court includes a
change from deep level up to the district platforms but there are both
lifts and escalators so you should be able to choose what is best for
you and your bags.

The change to the District Line at Earl's Court may be a little tricky
to an unexperienced tube user... The station has an eastbound platform
with tracks on both sides and any train to any eastbound destination can
depart from any of the sides so you have to watch destination blinds etc
to catch the right train (destination should be "Edgware Road"). It's
not a big problem if you take the wrong train and the next station you
see is Gloucester Road, you can do an easy cross-plaform change there in
that case and catch a westbound Circle Line train that will take you
directly to Bayswater too.

Am I correct
to understand that tube trains run on pre-determined schedule (seems like a
foreign concep to me :D )?


They do run on some kind of schedule but they are frequent enough so you
should not have to worry about that.

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

"vmnvmcxbv" typed

Is this route doable with one large bag on wheels and small backpack? I've
never been to London and don't know how crowded London Tube is. Am I
correct
to understand that tube trains run on pre-determined schedule (seems like a
foreign concep to me :D )?

Easily.

Ignore times given; with trains running every 3 minutes or so, you just
take the first that comes, so long as it's not packed. It might be
worthwhile to let a crush-loaded train pass to give yourself a bit of
space.

The rush hour passengers will have passed by the time you travel, though
the 'twirly'[1] brigade may be out in force.

[1] Pensioners whose free passes cannot be used befor a certain time.
"Am I too early for this?"

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

"vmnvmcxbv" wrote in message
news:av48i.48$UD4.21@trndny07
I will be on vacation in London at the end of this month. I arrive to
Heathrow airport and stay in Bayswater inn hotel. Let's just say that
$100 price for the taxi trip seems to be somewhat excessive for this
New York resident :D. So I figured I can take a tube.
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk suggested this route (I selected
tube only with least transfers):
=======================
10:00

10:06Heathrow Terminal 2
Walk to Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3
Transfer time:6mins


10:06

10:39Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3 Underground Station
Take the Piccadilly Line towards Arnos Grove
or Piccadilly Line towards Cockfosters

10:45

Earl's Court Underground Station
Take the District Line towards Edgware Road (Circle Line)

Average journey time: 8 mins

10:53Bayswater Underground Station
=======================================

Is this route doable with one large bag on wheels and small backpack?
I've never been to London and don't know how crowded London Tube is.
Am I correct to understand that tube trains run on pre-determined
schedule (seems like a foreign concep to me :D )?

Tube trains do have a timetable, but for most routes it's not published.
The Journey Planner does know it and uses it, but trains don't stick to
it precisely, except (usually) at the beginning of the route. Most
routes are too frequent for you to have to care.

I would change your route to change twice, but more easily:
Take the Piccadilly Line as suggested, but get off at Hammersmith or
Baron's Court stations. Normally, all Piccadilly Line trains from
Heathrow T123 take this route, so you don't have to worry about looking
at where the train is going.

Walk across the platform and wait for the next District Line train
(it'll usually be there in a couple of minutes or so). Again, you don't
need to look at where it's going. You'll notice that this train is much
larger than the Piccadilly Line train, with much more headroom. It will
probably have green handrails.

When you get to Earl's Court (which will take about five minutes), get
off and take the next train to Edgware Road. It will probably be across
the platform, and you won't usually have to wait more than five minutes
(often, it's already waiting in the platform). To help you spot the
right train, this one will have yellow grab rails, though it's still
called a District Line train (not Circle Line). You will encounter your
first stairs at Bayswater station. I suggest you get in the second car
of the train from Earl's Court to be near the stairs at Bayswater.

I did a similar journey yesterday, and it was completely painless. I got
a seat on all three trains, and there was room for baggage, but the
trains from Heathrow are sometimes crowded and full of bags -- there's
extra space around the doors for the bags.

You will need a zone 1-6 ticket, which will be cheaper if you buy either
an Oyster card or a Travelcard.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

vmnvmcxbv wrote:
I will be on vacation in London at the end of this month. I arrive to
Heathrow airport and stay in Bayswater inn hotel. Let's just say that
$100 price for the taxi trip seems to be somewhat excessive for this
New York resident :D. So I figured I can take a tube.
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk suggested this route (I selected
tube only with least transfers):

To be honest, I wouldn't bother with the Tube. It takes over 40 minutes and
can be quite packed at times.

For about a quarter of the price of your quoted taxi fare you could catch
the Heathrow Express (runs every fifteen minutes) to Paddington mainline
station and then you are within walking distance of Bayswater (or one
Underground stop, if you choose). See http://www.heathrowexpress.com. It
will cost more than the Tube but the trains are comfortable and spacious,
with plenty of luggage space, and the journey only takes fifteen minutes
from Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 and about twenty from Terminal 4.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:49:55 +0100, Recliner wrote:

When you get to Earl's Court (which will take about five minutes), get
off and take the next train to Edgware Road. It will probably be across
the platform, and you won't usually have to wait more than five minutes
(often, it's already waiting in the platform).

These trains are every 10 minutes, so you will have to wait more than
five minutes about half the time...

You will need a zone 1-6 ticket, which will be cheaper if you buy either
an Oyster card or a Travelcard.

A Travelcard isn't cheaper than a Z1-6 single (£6.70 vs £4.00).

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

On Jun 2, 10:49 am, "Recliner" wrote:

Walk across the platform and wait for the next District Line train
(it'll usually be there in a couple of minutes or so). Again, you don't
need to look at where it's going. You'll notice that this train is much
larger than the Piccadilly Line train, with much more headroom. It will
probably have green handrails.

Yeah. Basically the Piccadilly and District stop on opposite sides of
the same platform at Hammersmith and Baron's Court, but by Earl's
Court, the Piccadilly Line is deep underground while the District is
still on the surface. Sadly no District Line trains run from the
Hammersmith branch to the Bayswater branch, so you still need to
change at Earl's Court, but this time there's no walking involved
since all trains call at the same platform.

Tube trains run every 3-10 minutes, no need to memorise schedules.

U

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

"asdf" wrote in message

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:49:55 +0100, Recliner wrote:

When you get to Earl's Court (which will take about five minutes),
get off and take the next train to Edgware Road. It will probably be
across the platform, and you won't usually have to wait more than
five minutes (often, it's already waiting in the platform).

These trains are every 10 minutes, so you will have to wait more than
five minutes about half the time...

Ah, but they often stand in the platform for a couple of minutes or so,
so while they may only depart every ten minutes, you'll usually see one
in the platform more often than that...


You will need a zone 1-6 ticket, which will be cheaper if you buy
either an Oyster card or a Travelcard.

A Travelcard isn't cheaper than a Z1-6 single (£6.70 vs £4.00).

True, unless he intends to make more journeys that day (quite likely,
I'd have thought, given the arrival time).

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

So to sum up, your options a

- underground to Bayswater, via Earls Court - 50 minutes - £4.00, or
£2.00 if you buy Oyster (which would be a wise thing to do, unless you
don't use public transport), which costs £3, but it can be refunded
when you leave UK.
- train to Paddington - then you can either walk, or take a bus or go
by underground.
- Heathrow Express - 15 minutes - £14.50
- Heathrow Connect to Paddington (runs every 30 minutes) - 25
minutes - £6.90.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message

vmnvmcxbv wrote:
I will be on vacation in London at the end of this month. I arrive to
Heathrow airport and stay in Bayswater inn hotel. Let's just say that
$100 price for the taxi trip seems to be somewhat excessive for this
New York resident :D. So I figured I can take a tube.
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk suggested this route (I selected
tube only with least transfers):

To be honest, I wouldn't bother with the Tube. It takes over 40
minutes and can be quite packed at times.

For about a quarter of the price of your quoted taxi fare you could
catch the Heathrow Express (runs every fifteen minutes) to Paddington
mainline station and then you are within walking distance of
Bayswater (or one Underground stop, if you choose). See
http://www.heathrowexpress.com. It will cost more than the Tube but
the trains are comfortable and spacious, with plenty of luggage
space, and the journey only takes fifteen minutes from Heathrow
Terminals 1,2,3 and about twenty from Terminal 4.

The OP's hotel is much closer to Bayswater station than Paddington, so
the Tube journey will involve much less walking, won't be much slower
overall, and is about a quarter of the price. It's probably worth
putting up with more cramped trains for that.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

On Jun 2, 11:42 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
For about a quarter of the price of your quoted taxi fare you could catch
the Heathrow Express (runs every fifteen minutes) to Paddington mainline
station and then you are within walking distance of Bayswater

£15, $30

(or one
Underground stop, if you choose).
Anoter £4/$8, you'd be better getting a taxi from Paddington, but
queues can be long

Seehttp://www.heathrowexpress.com. It
will cost more than the Tube but the trains are comfortable and spacious,
with plenty of luggage space, and the journey only takes fifteen minutes
from Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 and about twenty from Terminal 4.

You also get assaulted with adverts blaring from the tvs. Heathrow
Connect takes a little longer, but costs half the price of the express
($13).

Express runs every 15 minutes, connect every 30 minutes. Tube every 5
minutes. Based on average waits, and a 15 minute transfer at
Paddington, Express $30 will take 37 minutes, Connect $15 55 minutes,
Tube $8 about 45 minutes (cross-platform change at Barons Court and
Earls Court). That's to get to Bayswater station.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
oups.com
On Jun 2, 11:42 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
For about a quarter of the price of your quoted taxi fare you could
catch the Heathrow Express (runs every fifteen minutes) to
Paddington mainline station and then you are within walking distance
of Bayswater

£15, $30

(or one
Underground stop, if you choose).
Anoter £4/$8, you'd be better getting a taxi from Paddington, but
queues can be long

Seehttp://www.heathrowexpress.com. It
will cost more than the Tube but the trains are comfortable and
spacious, with plenty of luggage space, and the journey only takes
fifteen minutes from Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 and about twenty from
Terminal 4.

You also get assaulted with adverts blaring from the tvs. Heathrow
Connect takes a little longer, but costs half the price of the express
($13).

Express runs every 15 minutes, connect every 30 minutes. Tube every 5
minutes. Based on average waits, and a 15 minute transfer at
Paddington, Express $30 will take 37 minutes, Connect $15 55 minutes,
Tube $8 about 45 minutes (cross-platform change at Barons Court and
Earls Court). That's to get to Bayswater station.

His hotel is less than five minutes walk (420m) from Bayswater station,
according to the TfL Journey Planner map.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

"XmaX" wrote in message
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So to sum up, your options a

- underground to Bayswater, via Earls Court - 50 minutes - £4.00, or
£2.00 if you buy Oyster (which would be a wise thing to do, unless you
don't use public transport), which costs £3, but it can be refunded
when you leave UK.

The £2 Oyster fare is only available off-peak, otherwise £3.50.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/tickets/fa...res=Show+fares

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

On Jun 2, 12:05 pm, "Recliner" wrote:
"XmaX" wrote in message

oups.com

So to sum up, your options a

- underground to Bayswater, via Earls Court - 50 minutes - £4.00, or
£2.00 if you buy Oyster (which would be a wise thing to do, unless you
don't use public transport), which costs £3, but it can be refunded
when you leave UK.

The £2 Oyster fare is only available off-peak, otherwise £3.50.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/tickets/fa...farefinder/def...


My mistake. For unknown reason I assumed that vmnvmcxbv is travelling
during the weekend :)

Thanks for all these useful responses!
 

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!

I was thinking about getting Oyster card. Will it be possible to cash it out
on my back home in Heathrow? Does it take long time?

On unrelated note: I am rather surprised with the complexity of tube pricing
scheme. Kind of makes you appreciate our system in NY.

TIA

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

2 questions about your suggested route:

1) How to read the tube map? From your suggestion it is obvious I can
transfer at Hammersmith or Baron's Court stations. But on the map the routes
don't touch. If you didn't say I would think they run in parallel but there
is no transfer there.

2) How can I tell by looking at the train what line this is? District line
train is green on the map. It's not supposed to have yellow anything.

1) From looking at the map it seems there is no
"Recliner" wrote in message
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"vmnvmcxbv" wrote in message
news:av48i.48$UD4.21@trndny07
I will be on vacation in London at the end of this month. I arrive to
Heathrow airport and stay in Bayswater inn hotel. Let's just say that
$100 price for the taxi trip seems to be somewhat excessive for this
New York resident :D. So I figured I can take a tube.
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk suggested this route (I selected
tube only with least transfers):
=======================
10:00

10:06Heathrow Terminal 2
Walk to Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3
Transfer time:6mins


10:06

10:39Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3 Underground Station
Take the Piccadilly Line towards Arnos Grove
or Piccadilly Line towards Cockfosters

10:45

Earl's Court Underground Station
Take the District Line towards Edgware Road (Circle Line)

Average journey time: 8 mins

10:53Bayswater Underground Station
=======================================

Is this route doable with one large bag on wheels and small backpack?
I've never been to London and don't know how crowded London Tube is.
Am I correct to understand that tube trains run on pre-determined
schedule (seems like a foreign concep to me :D )?

Tube trains do have a timetable, but for most routes it's not published.
The Journey Planner does know it and uses it, but trains don't stick to it
precisely, except (usually) at the beginning of the route. Most routes are
too frequent for you to have to care.

I would change your route to change twice, but more easily:
Take the Piccadilly Line as suggested, but get off at Hammersmith or
Baron's Court stations. Normally, all Piccadilly Line trains from Heathrow
T123 take this route, so you don't have to worry about looking at where
the train is going.

Walk across the platform and wait for the next District Line train (it'll
usually be there in a couple of minutes or so). Again, you don't need to
look at where it's going. You'll notice that this train is much larger
than the Piccadilly Line train, with much more headroom. It will probably
have green handrails.

When you get to Earl's Court (which will take about five minutes), get off
and take the next train to Edgware Road. It will probably be across the
platform, and you won't usually have to wait more than five minutes
(often, it's already waiting in the platform). To help you spot the right
train, this one will have yellow grab rails, though it's still called a
District Line train (not Circle Line). You will encounter your first
stairs at Bayswater station. I suggest you get in the second car of the
train from Earl's Court to be near the stairs at Bayswater.

I did a similar journey yesterday, and it was completely painless. I got a
seat on all three trains, and there was room for baggage, but the trains
from Heathrow are sometimes crowded and full of bags -- there's extra
space around the doors for the bags.

You will need a zone 1-6 ticket, which will be cheaper if you buy either
an Oyster card or a Travelcard.

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

Please don't top-post. Especially when others have already been
responding to your message by bottom-posting. It makes it very confusing.

vmnvmcxbv wrote:

1) How to read the tube map? From your suggestion it is obvious I can
transfer at Hammersmith or Baron's Court stations. But on the map the routes
don't touch. If you didn't say I would think they run in parallel but there
is no transfer there.

You can transfer at Hammersmith, because they are connected--the little
circles for a interchange station should be connected.

Barons Court is less obvious. I can't think of a consistent rule that
would allow you to know that transfers are possible there. For some
reason LU seems to prefer transfers at Hammersmith since it is marked as
an "interchange station."

2) How can I tell by looking at the train what line this is? District line
train is green on the map. It's not supposed to have yellow anything.

The District line trains will be on a different platform from Piccadilly
line trains.

There will usually be advance notice in the station of what kind of
train is coming next, such as its final destination. It will also be
marked on the front and rear of the train, and sometimes on the sides.
--
Michael Hoffman

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

Michael Hoffman wrote:
Please don't top-post. Especially when others have already been
responding to your message by bottom-posting. It makes it very
confusing.
vmnvmcxbv wrote:

1) How to read the tube map? From your suggestion it is obvious I
can transfer at Hammersmith or Baron's Court stations. But on the
map the routes don't touch. If you didn't say I would think they
run in parallel but there is no transfer there.

You can transfer at Hammersmith, because they are connected--the
little circles for a interchange station should be connected.

Barons Court is less obvious. I can't think of a consistent rule
that would allow you to know that transfers are possible there. For
some reason LU seems to prefer transfers at Hammersmith since it is
marked as an "interchange station."

LU aren't consistent about this. On the LU site at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/1108.aspx the Standard Tube Map
shows no intercgange at Barons Court, and similarly at Gloucester Road
and Turnham Green, but the clumsily-named "Tube, DLR, Trams and Train
Travelcard zones Map" (what used to be the London Connections map) shows
BC and GR as interchanges but not TG, and the large-print Tube map shows
all three stations as interchanges.

2) How can I tell by looking at the train what line this is?
District line train is green on the map. It's not supposed to have
yellow anything.

The District line trains will be on a different platform from
Piccadilly line trains.

There will usually be advance notice in the station of what kind of
train is coming next, such as its final destination. It will also be
marked on the front and rear of the train, and sometimes on the
sides.

The line colours on the map are also repeated as coloured bars at the
top of some station signs, but generally not on trains. The exception
is that *some* of the trains have *some* grab poles in the line colour.
This was mentioned in this thread because it happens to be a way of
distinguishing the stock (District/Circle) that serves Bayswater station
from other District Line stock.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Thanks for all these useful responses!
 

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:22:03 +0100, vmnvmcxbv
wrote:

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!

I was thinking about getting Oyster card. Will it be possible to cash it
out
on my back home in Heathrow? Does it take long time?

It should be possible, as long as the ticket office is open. Not sure what
hours they keep. How long it will take will depend on the size of the
queue.

On unrelated note: I am rather surprised with the complexity of tube
pricing
scheme. Kind of makes you appreciate our system in NY.

You are not alone. I have colleagues who have lived in London for years and
still can't understand it. Gets even more complex when you start including
overground trains and buses. For months I traveled to work on a weekly
zone 3-6
travel card and also bought a bus ticket to travel into the west end in
the evening!

Good luck.

--
Fig

Thanks for all these useful responses!
 

"vmnvmcxbv" typed


Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!

I was thinking about getting Oyster card. Will it be possible to cash
it out
on my back home in Heathrow? Does it take long time?

On unrelated note: I am rather surprised with the complexity of tube
pricing
scheme. Kind of makes you appreciate our system in NY.

TIA


I suggest keeping the Oyster card if you're not strapped for cash and
giving/lending it to the next friend or relative who visits London, so
they don't pay extortionate cash fares

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message

"vmnvmcxbv" typed


Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!

I was thinking about getting Oyster card. Will it be possible to cash
it out
on my back home in Heathrow? Does it take long time?

On unrelated note: I am rather surprised with the complexity of tube
pricing
scheme. Kind of makes you appreciate our system in NY.

TIA


I suggest keeping the Oyster card if you're not strapped for cash and
giving/lending it to the next friend or relative who visits London, so
they don't pay extortionate cash fares

That's a good idea -- you can legitimately lend an Oyster card to
someone else. The pre-paid cash remains valid for a long time, and it'll
save both money and time for anyone using it in the future. You can top
it up when needed using cash or a credit card (although I'm not sure if
it'll accept a US credit card in this chip and pin era).

Thanks for all these useful responses!
 

Recliner wrote:
"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message

"vmnvmcxbv" typed


Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!
I was thinking about getting Oyster card. Will it be possible to cash
it out
on my back home in Heathrow? Does it take long time?
On unrelated note: I am rather surprised with the complexity of tube
pricing
scheme. Kind of makes you appreciate our system in NY.
TIA

I suggest keeping the Oyster card if you're not strapped for cash and
giving/lending it to the next friend or relative who visits London, so
they don't pay extortionate cash fares

That's a good idea -- you can legitimately lend an Oyster card to
someone else.

As long as it doesn't have a Travelcard on it (I know you know this).

The pre-paid cash remains valid for a long time, and it'll
save both money and time for anyone using it in the future. You can top
it up when needed using cash or a credit card (although I'm not sure if
it'll accept a US credit card in this chip and pin era).

Last two times I tried at TfL vending machines, no.
--
Michael Hoffman

Thanks for all these useful responses!
 

Fig wrote:


You are not alone. I have colleagues who have lived in London for years and
still can't understand it. Gets even more complex when you start including
overground trains and buses. For months I traveled to work on a weekly
zone 3-6
travel card and also bought a bus ticket to travel into the west end in
the evening!

Good luck.

--Fig

Wouldn't a zone 3-6 travelcard be valid on all buses in zone 1 anyway? I
tend not to think about these things as I have a staff pass but I'm
fairly sure this used to be the case?

Cheers

Steve M

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:56:07 +0100, Michael Hoffman
wrote:

The District line trains will be on a different platform from Piccadilly
line trains.


In this particular instance the District and Piccadilly platforms are
on different levels: if you can see the sky above, it's the District
Line.

There will usually be advance notice in the station of what kind of
train is coming next, such as its final destination. It will also be
marked on the front and rear of the train, and sometimes on the sides.

The advance notice at Earls Court is provided by the sign pictured in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...Indicators.jpg
- you want an Edgware Road train so the arrow in the bottom right-hand
corner will be illuminated

Martin

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On Jun 3, 1:44 am, Steve M wrote:
Wouldn't a zone 3-6 travelcard be valid on all buses in zone 1 anyway? I
tend not to think about these things as I have a staff pass but I'm
fairly sure this used to be the case?

It is the case right now, but presumably the poster is talking about
when the zones used to apply to buses too. This was dropped when they
brought in Oyster, to avoid people having to touch out.

U

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Michael Hoffman wrote:
Recliner wrote:
The pre-paid cash remains valid for a long time, and it'll save both
money and time for anyone using it in the future. You can top it up
when needed using cash or a credit card (although I'm not sure if
it'll accept a US credit card in this chip and pin era).

Last two times I tried at TfL vending machines, no.

When I tried last August, my card was accepted at the smaller machines
but not at the larger ones.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA

Getting from Heathrow airport to Bayswater inn hotel by tube.
 

In article , Recliner
writes
I would change your route to change twice, but more easily:

I would agree.

[...]

When you get to Earl's Court (which will take about five minutes), get
off and take the next train to Edgware Road. It will probably be across
the platform, and you won't usually have to wait more than five minutes
(often, it's already waiting in the platform). To help you spot the
right train, this one will have yellow grab rails, though it's still
called a District Line train (not Circle Line).

Warning: while all trains to Edgware Road will have yellow grab rails
(and double doors) rather than green grab rails (and single doors), the
converse is not true. That is, a train with yellow grab rails might not
be going to Edgware Road. You need to listen to announcements or look at
the destination on the front of the train or on the indicator boards.[*]

As another posting said, it isn't a disaster if this goes wrong. At the
next station - Gloucester Road - get off, cross to the other platform,
and wait for a train saying "Circle Line" on the front.
[*] There's another way to tell, and that's from the signals on the
gantry at the end of the platform.

Platform 1:
two green lights and no white lights = Edgware Road
two green lights and three white lights = Gloucester Road
anything else = could be either

Platform 2:
green light and three white lights = almost certainly Edgware Road
green light and no white lights = Gloucester Road
red = could be either

("almost certainly" because a train could be zig-zagged back on to the
Gloucester Road line, but this would only be done in exceptional
circumstances.)

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In article , Recliner
writes
I would change your route to change twice, but more easily:

I would agree.

[...]

When you get to Earl's Court (which will take about five minutes),
get off and take the next train to Edgware Road. It will probably be
across the platform, and you won't usually have to wait more than
five minutes (often, it's already waiting in the platform). To help
you spot the right train, this one will have yellow grab rails,
though it's still called a District Line train (not Circle Line).

Warning: while all trains to Edgware Road will have yellow grab rails
(and double doors) rather than green grab rails (and single doors),
the converse is not true. That is, a train with yellow grab rails
might not be going to Edgware Road. You need to listen to
announcements or look at the destination on the front of the train or
on the indicator boards.[*]

How likely is it that a C stock train would be going somewhere other
than Edgware Road from Earl's Court? I know it could be going to High
St Ken, but that's not very likely, is it?

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In article , Recliner
writes
How likely is it that a C stock train would be going somewhere other
than Edgware Road from Earl's Court? I know it could be going to High
St Ken, but that's not very likely, is it?

I wouldn't expect so, but you can't be sure. At present the C stock is
provided by Parsons Green (3 trains), Triangle (3 M-S, 5 Su), and
Hammersmith (4 M-F, 2 Sa), so I would expect those trains to be on the
Wimblewares. But I'm sure that in the past they've come from Barking.

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