MUSE concert at Wembley
 

Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?

Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to Stanmore,
the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from Wembley Central
ran the last train and left thousands of people milling about wondering
what to do next.

--

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to Stanmore,
the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from Wembley Central
ran the last train and left thousands of people milling about wondering
what to do next.

I'm pretty sure that LU will not schedule any maintenance work during
the Olympics.
And Met had "obstruction on the track" at Willesden Green, which was
very unfortunate in timing but was resolved relatively quickly.

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner.

They seemed to do an OK job on Saturday.

Bakerloo from Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands
of people milling about wondering what to do next.

What did they do?
--
Michael Hoffman

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

alex_t wrote:
Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to Stanmore,
the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from Wembley Central
ran the last train and left thousands of people milling about wondering
what to do next.

I'm pretty sure that LU will not schedule any maintenance work during
the Olympics.
And Met had "obstruction on the track" at Willesden Green, which was
very unfortunate in timing but was resolved relatively quickly.

Scaffolding collapsed onto the track from a building site, all TFLs
fault of course ;-)

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

Scaffolding collapsed onto the track from a building site, all TFLs
fault of course ;-)

Bad TfL! Bad TfL! :-)

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
...
aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner.

They seemed to do an OK job on Saturday.

Bakerloo from Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands
of people milling about wondering what to do next.

What did they do?
--
Michael Hoffman

Well what were they meant to do with the Bakerloo line keep it open all
night?

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?

Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to
Stanmore, the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from
Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands of people
milling about wondering what to do next.

On the other hand, Chiltern Railways were doing a phenomenal job getting the
crowds away from Wembley Stadium in both directions. Services from
Marylebone were enhanced by additional trains ex-Wembley Light Maintenance
Depot, where additional stock had been gathered, running in six and
seven-car formations to High Wycombe or Aylesbury, between the timetabled
services. Additionally, stock was being run into the turnback siding and
back into the up platform to provide additional seven-coach trains into
Marylebone. All very efficiently handled, with crowds segregated immediately
that they left the stadium approach road. I left the stadium at 22:05 and
was on a train heading north at 22:19. No complaints whatsoever.

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:44:53 -0700, alex_t
wrote:


Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to Stanmore,
the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from Wembley Central
ran the last train and left thousands of people milling about wondering
what to do next.

I'm pretty sure that LU will not schedule any maintenance work during
the Olympics.
And Met had "obstruction on the track" at Willesden Green, which was
very unfortunate in timing but was resolved relatively quickly.

Yep. To be fair, the Met problem seemed to be sorted pretty smartish.

Simon

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"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
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wrote:
"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
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aroojequ wrote:
Bakerloo from Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands
of people milling about wondering what to do next.

What did they do?

Well what were they meant to do with the Bakerloo line keep it open all
night?

That's your question, not mine. I'm asking what the "thousands of people
milling about" ended up doing to get home.
--
Michael Hoffman

Well I answer my question by saying No.

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On Jun 18, 3:10 pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?

Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to
Stanmore, the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from
Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands of people
milling about wondering what to do next.

On the other hand, Chiltern Railways were doing a phenomenal job getting the
crowds away from Wembley Stadium in both directions. Services from
Marylebone were enhanced by additional trains ex-Wembley Light Maintenance
Depot, where additional stock had been gathered, running in six and
seven-car formations to High Wycombe or Aylesbury, between the timetabled
services. Additionally, stock was being run into the turnback siding and
back into the up platform to provide additional seven-coach trains into
Marylebone. All very efficiently handled, with crowds segregated immediately
that they left the stadium approach road. I left the stadium at 22:05 and
was on a train heading north at 22:19. No complaints whatsoever.



LUL organised extra Jubilee and Bakerloo line trains at the north end
of the lines and over 60 buses were drafted in to run to Golders Green
and Baker Street (not bad for a Sunday night!). The Met line Service
Control also have a very good working relationship with Chiltern so
this came in handy too!

I expect the Scaffold Contractors will now have lots of paperwork to
do!

From the text messages I was getting regarding the incident, I think
LUL did a very good job, and provided a good little test for when
there is a big football crowd!

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"chunky munky" wrote in message
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On Jun 18, 3:10 pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?

Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to
Stanmore, the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from
Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands of people
milling about wondering what to do next.

On the other hand, Chiltern Railways were doing a phenomenal job getting
the
crowds away from Wembley Stadium in both directions. Services from
Marylebone were enhanced by additional trains ex-Wembley Light
Maintenance
Depot, where additional stock had been gathered, running in six and
seven-car formations to High Wycombe or Aylesbury, between the timetabled
services. Additionally, stock was being run into the turnback siding and
back into the up platform to provide additional seven-coach trains into
Marylebone. All very efficiently handled, with crowds segregated
immediately
that they left the stadium approach road. I left the stadium at 22:05 and
was on a train heading north at 22:19. No complaints whatsoever.



LUL organised extra Jubilee and Bakerloo line trains at the north end
of the lines and over 60 buses were drafted in to run to Golders Green
and Baker Street (not bad for a Sunday night!). The Met line Service
Control also have a very good working relationship with Chiltern so
this came in handy too!

I expect the Scaffold Contractors will now have lots of paperwork to
do!

From the text messages I was getting regarding the incident, I think
LUL did a very good job, and provided a good little test for when
there is a big football crowd!


Does anyone know what time the scaffolding was eventually moved?

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Does anyone know what time the scaffolding was eventually moved?

A warning announcement was made within the stadium at about 19:30 that
there was no southbound Metropolitan line and that an update would be
issued at the end of the concert. As promised, at just after 22:00, fans
were advised that there was still no southbound Met and passengers were
advised to make alternative arrangements, travelling via Wembley Central
and Wembley Stadium if possible or by using the Jubilee line.


Sounds like the TFL were informing customers well.

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?

The one thing you neglect to mention is that the concert actually
overran, due to a late start as a result of flooding, and didn't
actually finish 'til around 22:45.

Net result: When I got to Baker Street on my way home from work, at
around 23:00, I couldn't board an Eastbound service as they were all
full and standing...

Cheers,

Barry

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Barry Salter wrote:

The one thing you neglect to mention is that the concert actually
overran, due to a late start as a result of flooding, and didn't
actually finish 'til around 22:45.

Net result: When I got to Baker Street on my way home from work, at
around 23:00, I couldn't board an Eastbound service as they were all
full and standing...

I suspect that you're referring to the Saturday gig, Barry. The OP was
referring to the Sunday gig.

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30, according to
the running order - the gig may well have overrun, my brother-in-law and
nephew had to get back to Cambridge and had to call on a friend to pick them
up at Stevenage as they missed the last Cambridge train (I haven't spoken to
them to check, yet). Certainly on the Met line there were about 40 fans in
t-shirts that joined the last down Chiltern at H-o-t-H that night.

On Sunday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:00 to 22:00 and were
minute-perfect. The problems were with the up Metropolitan line, where
scaffolding had collapsed onto the track near Willesden Green. Elsewhere
there were no problems AFAIK in dispersing the crowds.

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:07:18 GMT, wrote:

Bakerloo from Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands
of people milling about wondering what to do next.

What did they do?

Well what were they meant to do with the Bakerloo line keep it open all
night?

Incidentally, AFAIK one pair of tracks from Wembley Central to Euston
normally stays open all night.

(Organising relief trains would probably be too much hassle compared
to just using buses, though.)

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On Jun 19, 12:16 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
Barry Salter wrote:

The one thing you neglect to mention is that the concert actually
overran, due to a late start as a result of flooding, and didn't
actually finish 'til around 22:45.

Net result: When I got to Baker Street on my way home from work, at
around 23:00, I couldn't board an Eastbound service as they were all
full and standing...

I suspect that you're referring to the Saturday gig, Barry. The OP was
referring to the Sunday gig.

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30, according to
the running order - the gig may well have overrun, my brother-in-law and
nephew had to get back to Cambridge and had to call on a friend to pick them
up at Stevenage as they missed the last Cambridge train (I haven't spoken to
them to check, yet). Certainly on the Met line there were about 40 fans in
t-shirts that joined the last down Chiltern at H-o-t-H that night.

On Sunday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:00 to 22:00 and were
minute-perfect. The problems were with the up Metropolitan line, where
scaffolding had collapsed onto the track near Willesden Green. Elsewhere
there were no problems AFAIK in dispersing the crowds.


The Met resumed at 23.20, after they managed to get the pole off and
check the track and equipment

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

The Jubilee's engineering works between Stanmore and Wembley Park
meant that there was a reduced service, as trains could only reverse
at Wembley Park itself. Those engineering works were planned and
booked before the Muse concert, according to TFL, and there was no way
of cancelling them once they found out about the concert.

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

Jack Taylor wrote:

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30, according to
the running order - the gig may well have overrun,

It rained earlier in the day so the stage was wet. There was a delay
while a bunch of people came out with pushbrooms and towels to clean it off.
--
Michael Hoffman

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Jack Taylor wrote:

Elsewhere there were no problems AFAIK in dispersing the crowds.

Perhaps slightly off-topic: Going from the stadium to Wembley Park
station after the concert, one had to pass through a gauntlet of
police--one line on horses and two lines on foot. They were obviously
placed to be able to block all traffic if necessary, but why would this
have been necessary?
--
Michael Hoffman

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Michael Hoffman ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30,
according to the running order - the gig may well have overrun,

It rained earlier in the day so the stage was wet. There was a delay
while a bunch of people came out with pushbrooms and towels to clean
it off.

Correct me if I'm mistaken here, but isn't one of the features of the new
Wembley Stadium the ability to *close the roof* within a couple of
minutes...?

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On Jun 19, 12:50 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Jack Taylor wrote:
Elsewhere there were no problems AFAIK in dispersing the crowds.

Perhaps slightly off-topic: Going from the stadium to Wembley Park
station after the concert, one had to pass through a gauntlet of
police--one line on horses and two lines on foot. They were obviously
placed to be able to block all traffic if necessary, but why would this
have been necessary?
--
Michael Hoffman


To stop a sudden crowd surge towards the station. I gather that this
is going to be a standard policing method there. There was also an
additional police presence at Wembley Central because of the Met
problems

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Adrian wrote:
Michael Hoffman ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30,
according to the running order - the gig may well have overrun,

It rained earlier in the day so the stage was wet. There was a delay
while a bunch of people came out with pushbrooms and towels to clean
it off.

Correct me if I'm mistaken here, but isn't one of the features of the
new Wembley Stadium the ability to *close the roof* within a couple of
minutes...?

You're right. And one of the other features is that leaks.

I was impressed by the sight of the massive crowds walking down the sloping
walkways which circle the building. It was like something from a science
fiction film.

I was unimpressed with the traffic jam leaving this brand new facility. It
was like something from a science fiction film.

When the concert was over, did a voice come on the Tannoy and sayt "The Muse
has left us"?

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John Rowland ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

It rained earlier in the day so the stage was wet. There was a delay
while a bunch of people came out with pushbrooms and towels to clean
it off.

Correct me if I'm mistaken here, but isn't one of the features of the
new Wembley Stadium the ability to *close the roof* within a couple
of minutes...?

You're right. And one of the other features is that leaks.

Bwahahahahahahahahah....

I was unimpressed with the traffic jam leaving this brand new
facility. It was like something from a science fiction film.

Mmm. We were at the Sunday George Michael gig, and it was certainly...
slow... leaving - but I don't think there's a lot more can be done about
that without flattening the entire area.

But TWENTY QUID for the "official" car park? No wonder everybody's parking
in the industrial estates for a tenner!