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On Jun 19, 6:26 pm, "Mortimer" wrote:

How long will it be before *every* bit of British life is run by overseas
finance and management. Are there going to be *any* companies in Britain
that are still British? Is it a two-way process: are there any transport or
utility companies elsewhere in the world that are owned by British
companies, or is it all one-sided?


Arriva have significant interests in Germany and the Netherlands.

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In article . com,
Kevin wrote:
etent"[1] than that.

Err.. and aren't the MTR in question the people who run the Hong Kong
metro - hardly a 'building firm'...

Paul



Precisely so, and it is headed up in the UK by Jeremy Long, formerly
head of GB Railways and then, for a time, First's railway ops after the
takeover, so masses of very relevant experience in the team
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On 19 Jun, 19:37, Arthur Figgis wrote:
Is it a two-way process: are there any transport or
utility companies elsewhere in the world that are owned by British
companies, or is it all one-sided?


Arriva have franchises/operating concessions/etc in the Netherlands,
Germany, Denmark and perhaps soon Poland. Angel Trains lease stock
across Europe.

FirstGroup have overseas activities in the USA, National Express Group
crop up in North America, Portugal and Australia.

Where do Serco live? They've just got the Dubai metro operating contract.


Serco live in Richmond (.lon.uk, not .va.us); it also runs the
Copenhagen metro. Also, Stagecoach runs commuter buses across the US.

On the subject of utilities, National Grid owns the transmission
network for most of New England and New York.

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On 20 Jun, 01:40, sweek wrote:
You might want to have a look he
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/pdf/tube_map2010.pdf

I just hope that the Bakerloo will be re-extended and that the London
Overground appears from the map there.


Aside from the obvious London Overground addition (which just about
works on the map, although they need to lose the "interchange" blobs
from the shared Bakerloo/Overground section), there are some
interesting accessibility things in that map:

1) Waterloo Northern Line made accessible - is this going to involve
providing access from the Northern Line platforms to the Jubilee
travelator, or will there be new lifts?

2) Highbury made accessible - providing Vic/GN access to the old
station building via the old lifts sounds achievable, but how will the
accessible tube - LO interchange work? I don't count traversing most
of Highbury Corner as accessible...

3) Paddington (Circle) made accessible - if you were going to provide
accessible SSL/NR interchange at Paddington, I'd've thought the H&C
station would be a better bet! Where's this going to go?

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Mortimer wrote:
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...


The Evening Standard in London is apparently saying the Chinese have won
the bid, though. Not sure what that means.

MTR is a Hong Kong company; i guess Hong Kong counts as China, although
saying 'Chinese' certainly suggests the big red bit of China to me. It was
started as a government agency, then partially privatised - the HK
government still owns most of it. Mention has been made of their already
being involved in running other railways outside Hong Kong, but i don't
think this has actually happened yet; they're contracted to build some
lines in China, but haven't successfully completed anything yet.


How long will it be before *every* bit of British life is run by overseas
finance and management. Are there going to be *any* companies in Britain
that are still British? Is it a two-way process: are there any transport or
utility companies elsewhere in the world that are owned by British
companies, or is it all one-sided?


I'm pretty sure that Vodafone is still UK, and they have their fingers
in a great many pies round the world. Others have mentionned the
companies that started as bus barons in the 80s that have done a good
job of hoovering up transport bits and pieces around the world. I would
say it's generally a 2-way street.

Robin


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John B wrote:
On 20 Jun, 01:40, sweek wrote:
You might want to have a look he
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/pdf/tube_map2010.pdf


Aside from the obvious London Overground addition (which just about
works on the map, although they need to lose the "interchange" blobs
from the shared Bakerloo/Overground section), there are some
interesting accessibility things in that map:


It looks like the lift for the other platform at West Brompton won't be
finished yet, and the existing lifts will have been taken out!


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On 20 Jun, 01:40, sweek wrote:
You might want to have a look he
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/pdf/tube_map2010.pdf

I just hope that the Bakerloo will be re-extended and that the London
Overground appears from the map there.


Aside from the obvious London Overground addition (which just about
works on the map, although they need to lose the "interchange" blobs
from the shared Bakerloo/Overground section), there are some
interesting accessibility things in that map:

1) Waterloo Northern Line made accessible - is this going to involve
providing access from the Northern Line platforms to the Jubilee
travelator, or will there be new lifts?

2) Highbury made accessible - providing Vic/GN access to the old
station building via the old lifts sounds achievable, but how will the
accessible tube - LO interchange work? I don't count traversing most
of Highbury Corner as accessible...

3) Paddington (Circle) made accessible - if you were going to provide
accessible SSL/NR interchange at Paddington, I'd've thought the H&C
station would be a better bet! Where's this going to go?


I see that although they have all the new names for the stations in the
Shepherds Bush/White City area, the new Wood Lane station on the H&C is
implied as being quite a distance from White City. I know it isn't an
interchange as such, but it would be more accurate if they were closer
together surely?

Paul


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In message , at
17:26:19 on Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Mortimer remarked:
See Amstrad - until The Apprentice I didn't know that Amstrad had their
fingers in any other pies than low-end PC computers.


Originally Amstrad did "consumer electronics", which was audio, TVs,
VCRs, car radios, clock radios and other such things; plus "this week's
fad", which had included CB Radio, and in 1984 8-bit games computers,
followed by the PCW word processor, then a low cost (but fully featured)
PC clone; later Sky TV boxes, mobile phones (under the Dancall brand),
emailer etc etc.

Amstrad is still, as far as I can see, doing the same thing (Tim
Campbell's beauty product was from Amstrad), but the PC business was
transferred to Viglen some time in the mid 90's. Viglen is not part of
Amstrad, being privately owned.

The property businesses, and an executive jet hire company (featured in
an early Apprentice task), are also quite separate from Amstrad,
although within Sir Alan's empire.
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Paul Scott wrote:

the new Wood Lane station on the
H&C is implied as being quite a distance from White City. I know it
isn't an interchange as such, but it would be more accurate if they
were closer together surely?


This map will have been thrown together for a press release.. I'm sure they
will have debugged it by 2010.


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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:08:45 +0100, John Rowland wrote:

You might want to have a look he
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/pdf/tube_map2010.pdf


Aside from the obvious London Overground addition (which just about
works on the map, although they need to lose the "interchange" blobs
from the shared Bakerloo/Overground section), there are some
interesting accessibility things in that map:


It looks like the lift for the other platform at West Brompton won't be
finished yet, and the existing lifts will have been taken out!


And Wembley Park (Met) will be accessible, but not Wembley Park
(Jubilee). How are they going to manage that? Big steps running along
the lengths of the platforms?


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