"the problems here were so immense that it was not even consideredin the GLC's list of 11 sites"
 

Evening all,

Was just reading some old stuff about the channel tunnel project, and came
across a report on a discussion of "Transportation aspects of the Channel
Tunnel and its London Terminal", which i think dates from the early 70s:

http://www.atypon-link.com/doi/pdf/1...icep.1974.4132

No idea if that's accessible to people without blessed IP addresses, but
on page 109, there's some discussion of the site of the London passenger
terminal, for which a new station in White City was the front runner; the
use of Victoria is discussed and rejected, and another site is mentioned,
only to be dismissed with the phrase i quote in the subject line. Guess
where? Give you a clue - starts with a W and ends in "aterloo" ...

Made me laugh, anyway!

What they would have thought of tunnelling right in to King's Cross, i
really don't know.

This White City station is interesting, though. The planned CTRL would
come in to London at South Croydon, along an existing alignment, then run
in tunnel to Balham, surface and carry on on new tracks to Clapham
Junction (didn't realise there was space for another pair here), then join
the WLL and wind up at this place in White City. I don't know where the
station itself would have been; the document says the land is in railway
ownership, but from the relation to the roads, it simplies it would have
been on the site now occupied by the BBC. It also says it's close to Old
Oak Common and Willesden Junction, and two underground lines.

tom

--
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO ARRIVE MAKE ALTERNATIVE TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS. --
Robin May

"the problems here were so immense that it was not even considered in the GLC's list of 11 sites"
 

In message , Tom
Anderson writes

No idea if that's accessible to people without blessed IP addresses,

It's not :(

I don't know where the station itself would have been; the document
says the land is in railway ownership, but from the relation to the
roads, it simplies it would have been on the site now occupied by the
BBC.

From memory, it was intended to occupy the site of the White City
Sidings - now part of the White City development. So it would have been
on the east side of Wood Lane rather than on the BBC's side. In fact, I
think it was probably quite a long way further over - adjacent to the
West London line, just north of Shepherd's Bush (Central line), thus
giving handy access to North Pole depot.

I recall that White City was still in the running (along with Stratford
and St Pancras) as late as 1989 when it was already known that an
alternative to Waterloo would be needed.

--
Paul Terry

"the problems here were so immense that it was not even considered in the GLC's list of 11 sites"
 

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...
Evening all,

Was just reading some old stuff about the channel tunnel project, and came
across a report on a discussion of "Transportation aspects of the Channel
Tunnel and its London Terminal", which i think dates from the early 70s:

http://www.atypon-link.com/doi/pdf/1...icep.1974.4132

No idea if that's accessible to people without blessed IP addresses, but
on page 109, there's some discussion of the site of the London passenger
terminal, for which a new station in White City was the front runner; the
use of Victoria is discussed and rejected, and another site is mentioned,
only to be dismissed with the phrase i quote in the subject line. Guess
where? Give you a clue - starts with a W and ends in "aterloo" ...

Made me laugh, anyway!

What they would have thought of tunnelling right in to King's Cross, i
really don't know.

This White City station is interesting, though. The planned CTRL would
come in to London at South Croydon, along an existing alignment, then run
in tunnel to Balham, surface and carry on on new tracks to Clapham
Junction (didn't realise there was space for another pair here), then join
the WLL and wind up at this place in White City. I don't know where the
station itself would have been; the document says the land is in railway
ownership, but from the relation to the roads, it simplies it would have
been on the site now occupied by the BBC. It also says it's close to Old
Oak Common and Willesden Junction, and two underground lines.

tom

--
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO ARRIVE MAKE ALTERNATIVE TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS. --
Robin May

I have such a document, dated January 1974, although it only has a few
pages, plus lots of maps!

The White City site is shown as parallel to and between the West Cross
Route and Wood Lane. The southern boundary being Ariel Way, with Westway to
the north. The artist's impression shows the BBC building in the distance.
It allowed for the Central Line to remain where it was with a new Met line
station overhead.

The route through Clapham (with the turn on to Chelsea bridge even sharper
than the present Wandsworth Road/Vauxhall curve) is only a thick black line
so how it would actually have been done I don't know.

MaxB