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Chris Read September 3rd 07 01:55 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 

Barry Doe, writing in 'Rail', states that all stations on the GOBLIN will be
staffed "all day" and "from December."

Is this correct? I moved away from the area earlier this year, but at that
time there were no buildings at most of the stations. Have 'huts' been
installed for staff, or will they just patrol the platforms in shifts? Will
they have ticket issuing facilities?

Without secure accommodation to retreat to, I wouldn't want to be based,
alone, at (say) Woodgrange Park in the evening.

Chris



Mr Thant September 3rd 07 02:31 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
On Sep 3, 2:55 pm, "Chris Read" wrote:
Is this correct? I moved away from the area earlier this year, but at that
time there were no buildings at most of the stations. Have 'huts' been
installed for staff, or will they just patrol the platforms in shifts? Will
they have ticket issuing facilities?


The user's group has good detail on the plans - apparently staffing
starts on November 11th:
http://www.barking-gospeloak.org.uk/news.htm

There are no signs of huts going up, but they have installed ticket
machines everywhere I've seen.

U

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somersetchris September 3rd 07 05:25 PM

It also says it on the Barking - Gospel Oak Line User Group website at http://www.barking-gospeloak.org.uk/news.htm

I am suspecting it will just be a few security guard patrols at first

[email protected] September 3rd 07 05:42 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
Apparently TFL will use security guards in some cases until staff are
in place.


Tim Roll-Pickering September 3rd 07 05:42 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
Mr Thant wrote:

The user's group has good detail on the plans - apparently staffing
starts on November 11th:
http://www.barking-gospeloak.org.uk/news.htm


There are no signs of huts going up, but they have installed ticket
machines everywhere I've seen.


They've also got early announcements - yesterday at Crouch Hill one said to
report problems at the station to a member of staff. None was anywhere to be
seen...



Paul Scott September 3rd 07 06:09 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Sep 3, 2:55 pm, "Chris Read" wrote:
Is this correct? I moved away from the area earlier this year, but at
that
time there were no buildings at most of the stations. Have 'huts' been
installed for staff, or will they just patrol the platforms in shifts?
Will
they have ticket issuing facilities?


The user's group has good detail on the plans - apparently staffing
starts on November 11th:
http://www.barking-gospeloak.org.uk/news.htm

There are no signs of huts going up, but they have installed ticket
machines everywhere I've seen.


I believe there are some quite posh 'portakabins' around these days... but
whats the betting all the PR stuff for the NLR occurs at Shepherds Bush?

Paul



Neil Williams September 3rd 07 08:44 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:31:04 -0700, Mr Thant
wrote:

The user's group has good detail on the plans - apparently staffing
starts on November 11th:
http://www.barking-gospeloak.org.uk/news.htm

There are no signs of huts going up, but they have installed ticket
machines everywhere I've seen.


It does seem a good idea. Merseyrail stations seem a lot less
threatening as a result, and vandalism is far less common.

Neil

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BRB Class 465 September 10th 07 05:28 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
On 3 Sep, 14:55, "Chris Read" wrote:
Barry Doe, writing in 'Rail', states that all stations on the GOBLIN will be
staffed "all day" and "from December."
Is this correct? I moved away from the area earlier this year, but at that
time there were no buildings at most of the stations. Have 'huts' been
installed for staff, or will they just patrol the platforms in shifts? Will
they have ticket issuing facilities?


A few points:-

1) I believe the current plan is for ALL London Overground stations
to be staffed from day one.

2) The Silverlink stations are presently in a poor state. Don't
expect TFL branding to be too prominent on these stations until
remedial work takes place.

3) It is expected to be announced by Labour shortly that Crossrail
WILL go ahead in some form.


BRB Class 465.



Charles Ellson September 10th 07 09:54 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:28:22 -0000, BRB Class 465
wrote:

snip
3) It is expected to be announced by Labour shortly that Crossrail
WILL go ahead in some form.

again

John B September 11th 07 09:26 AM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
On 10 Sep, 22:54, Charles Ellson wrote:
snip 3) It is expected to be announced by Labour shortly that Crossrail
WILL go ahead in some form.


again


when was it previously announced? aiui the current crossrail buzz is
that they've actually come up with a funding mechanism and will
announce that it *will* happen, not that it might happen subject to
funding...

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somersetchris September 11th 07 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Ellson (Post 66049)


Which has nothing to do with this thread

Mizter T September 11th 07 03:49 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
On 3 Sep, 14:55, "Chris Read" wrote:
Barry Doe, writing in 'Rail', states that all stations on the GOBLIN will be
staffed "all day" and "from December."

Is this correct? I moved away from the area earlier this year, but at that
time there were no buildings at most of the stations. Have 'huts' been
installed for staff, or will they just patrol the platforms in shifts? Will
they have ticket issuing facilities?

Without secure accommodation to retreat to, I wouldn't want to be based,
alone, at (say) Woodgrange Park in the evening.

Chris



I am under the impression that the stations on the Gospel Oak to
Barking line won't have staff permanently based at any of them -
instead there will be roving staff who'll travel up and down this
line, alighting at stations etc. I guess that on occasions there will
be ticket checks at these stations as well as onboard GOBLIN trains.

If you take a look at page 6 (PDF page 8) of the Board papers of the
TfL board meeting of June[1], you'll see this in the minutes of the
previous meeting:

---quote---
Ian Brown [Managing Director, London Rail] also confirmed that TfL
would require the franchisee to have staff based at all stations,
supported by added security staff on the Gospel Oak - Barking line. A
request from the Mayor had been included in the Overground Concession
that staff, with security support, must be available at the stations
at all times, during service hours.

The Chair said that TfL should look at erecting buildings at the
stations to
accommodate staff. Ian Brown confirmed that there is a programme to
install
waiting rooms and facilities for staff at stations.
---end quote---


Read literally it would suggest that each and every London Overground
station will indeed be staffed when trains are running. However, I
think that with a bit of deciphering, and in the context of GOBLIN, it
actually means that GOBLIN stations will have a roving staff presence
as opposed to a permanent one - but may well have shelter facilities
at these stations.

Additionally you might like to note this on page 9 (PDF page 11)
regarding security and policing:

---quote---
On the Overground, Jeroen Weimar [Director of Transport Policing and
Enforcement] confirmed that TfL had introduced over 70 officers from
BTP on the North London Line as part of the transition to London
Overground in November 2007. Over the last 12 months, the presence of
these officers has had a significant impact and this will be built
upon from November.
---end quote---


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[1] June '07 Agenda and papers:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...te/Agenda-and-
papers(1).pdf

Also all published TfL Board papers are available he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/abou...chiefofficers/
1436.aspx


Tom Anderson September 12th 07 11:25 PM

GOBLIN station staffing
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, BRB Class 465 wrote:

3) It is expected to be announced by Labour shortly that Crossrail WILL
go ahead in some form.


The form of a comic book, or a flash website, perhaps. Very unlikely to be
any form involving long holes in the ground, i imagine!

tom

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