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stuart noble September 28th 07 12:13 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
I'm concerned about the lighting in the underpass just before the
tunnel coming south. At around 17.00 when the sun is shining I find I
can see nothing for a couple of seconds until my eyes have adjusted,
so I have to grit my teeth and pray there isn't a queue in the
underpass. I haven't noticed the problem before, and I've been doing
this trip for a few years, so I imagine they've changed the lighting
recently.
This really is an accident waiting to happen in my view, and I'd like
to draw it to someone's attention. Anyone know who to complain to?


John B September 28th 07 03:10 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
On 28 Sep, 13:13, stuart noble
wrote:
I'm concerned about the lighting in the underpass just before the
tunnel coming south. At around 17.00 when the sun is shining I find I
can see nothing for a couple of seconds until my eyes have adjusted,

[snip]

Seems unlikely you'll have much to worry about for the rest of the
year, then...

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org


John Rowland September 28th 07 04:45 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
stuart noble wrote:
I'm concerned about the lighting in the underpass just before the
tunnel coming south. At around 17.00 when the sun is shining I find I
can see nothing for a couple of seconds until my eyes have adjusted,
so I have to grit my teeth and pray there isn't a queue in the
underpass.


Why don't you just slow down?




tim..... September 28th 07 06:00 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 

"stuart noble" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm concerned about the lighting in the underpass just before the
tunnel coming south. At around 17.00 when the sun is shining I find I
can see nothing for a couple of seconds until my eyes have adjusted,
so I have to grit my teeth and pray there isn't a queue in the
underpass.


I though that they had light outside the tunnel presisely to
stop a queue forming in the tunnel.

(It's also the reason why the Dartford bridge was built as
the southbound lanes)

tim



John Rowland September 28th 07 06:08 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
tim..... wrote:
"stuart noble" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm concerned about the lighting in the underpass just before the
tunnel coming south. At around 17.00 when the sun is shining I find I
can see nothing for a couple of seconds until my eyes have adjusted,
so I have to grit my teeth and pray there isn't a queue in the
underpass.


I though that they had light outside the tunnel presisely to
stop a queue forming in the tunnel.


He's talking about the underpass beneath the A13, not the tunnel beneath the
river. And traffic light is so that the traffic joining from the A13 won't
crash into through traffic from the A102.

(It's also the reason why the Dartford bridge was built as
the southbound lanes)


Huh?



Dr Ivan D. Reid September 28th 07 06:16 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:45:13 +0100, John Rowland

wrote in :
stuart noble wrote:
I'm concerned about the lighting in the underpass just before the
tunnel coming south. At around 17.00 when the sun is shining I find I
can see nothing for a couple of seconds until my eyes have adjusted,
so I have to grit my teeth and pray there isn't a queue in the
underpass.


Why don't you just slow down?


Should do, from today:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nsmoke128.xml

"Other additions include drivers being advised to stop if they are dazzled
by the sun."

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_069855
"93 Slow down, and if necessary stop, if you are dazzled by bright sunlight."

--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

tim..... September 28th 07 06:17 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
tim..... wrote:
"stuart noble" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm concerned about the lighting in the underpass just before the
tunnel coming south. At around 17.00 when the sun is shining I find I
can see nothing for a couple of seconds until my eyes have adjusted,
so I have to grit my teeth and pray there isn't a queue in the
underpass.


I though that they had light outside the tunnel presisely to
stop a queue forming in the tunnel.


He's talking about the underpass beneath the A13, not the tunnel beneath
the river. And traffic light is so that the traffic joining from the A13
won't crash into through traffic from the A102.

Oh

(It's also the reason why the Dartford bridge was built as
the southbound lanes)


Huh?


As the toll booths are on the south side, a tail back
at the booths will queue onto the bridge and not into
the tunnel

tim




John Rowland September 28th 07 06:37 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
tim..... wrote:

(It's also the reason why the Dartford bridge was built as
the southbound lanes)


Huh?


As the toll booths are on the south side, a tail back
at the booths will queue onto the bridge and not into
the tunnel


Hehe, for some reason I thought the tollbooths were on the northern side.

Looking at the satellite photo, it looks as if you can get into the tunnel
without going through the tollbooths.



Helen Edith Stephenson September 29th 07 08:06 PM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
In article , John Rowland
writes
tim..... wrote:

(It's also the reason why the Dartford bridge was built as
the southbound lanes)

Huh?


As the toll booths are on the south side, a tail back
at the booths will queue onto the bridge and not into
the tunnel


Hehe, for some reason I thought the tollbooths were on the northern side.

Looking at the satellite photo, it looks as if you can get into the tunnel
without going through the tollbooths.


If the Bridge is closed for any reason, they can close the east tunnel
to northbound traffic and filter the southbound traffic across into it.

When this happens, that southbound traffic passes through the tunnel
prior to visiting the tollbooths.

Helen

Helen Edith Stephenson helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk
--
(I'm sure you can figure out what I mean!)
Website: http://www.wuronga.me.uk/helen/index.html
Blog: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/helenedithuk

John Rowland September 30th 07 08:18 AM

Lighting Blackwall Tunnel
 
Helen Edith Stephenson wrote:
In article , John Rowland
writes
tim..... wrote:

(It's also the reason why the Dartford bridge was built as
the southbound lanes)

Huh?

As the toll booths are on the south side, a tail back
at the booths will queue onto the bridge and not into
the tunnel


Hehe, for some reason I thought the tollbooths were on the northern
side.

Looking at the satellite photo, it looks as if you can get into the
tunnel without going through the tollbooths.


If the Bridge is closed for any reason, they can close the east tunnel
to northbound traffic and filter the southbound traffic across into
it.

When this happens, that southbound traffic passes through the tunnel
prior to visiting the tollbooths.


Yeah... but I meant it looks like you can cross the river northbound without
paying the toll at all.




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