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On Nov 3, 9:19 pm, "tim....." wrote:
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On Nov 1, 8:52 pm, Mizter T wrote:
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How is it an irrational ticket?


It has no point. It merely duplicates what can be bought elsewhere,


But it does so in a way that offers a dicount for making
a bulk pre-purchase.

What you are saying is that it is irrational for shops to sell
six packs of beer because cans can be bought individually.

tim


I assumed that by 'what can be bought elsewhere' Offramp meant Oyster
prepay. Saver tickets seemed a good idea compared to cash fares when
they were introduced, since they should have sped up boarding and
reduced the amount of cash carried on buses. But given we now have
Oyster, which allows people to pay for travel in advance and thus get
discounted travel, and is presumably less open to fraud, why haven't
TfL scrapped savers entirely?


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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:15:08 -0700, brixtonite
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I assumed that by 'what can be bought elsewhere' Offramp meant Oyster
prepay. Saver tickets seemed a good idea compared to cash fares when
they were introduced, since they should have sped up boarding and
reduced the amount of cash carried on buses. But given we now have
Oyster, which allows people to pay for travel in advance and thus get
discounted travel, and is presumably less open to fraud, why haven't
TfL scrapped savers entirely?


It surprises me that they haven't, though I did explain one reason why
they offer a feature that Oyster doesn't (the ability to buy a book
and split between people). Do Tube Carnets still exist? If so, it's
probably the same reason.

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On Nov 3, 9:19 pm, "tim....." wrote:
"Offramp" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Nov 1, 8:52 pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 1 Nov, 17:56, Offramp wrote:


How is it an irrational ticket?


It has no point. It merely duplicates what can be bought elsewhere,


But it does so in a way that offers a dicount for making
a bulk pre-purchase.

What you are saying is that it is irrational for shops to sell
six packs of beer because cans can be bought individually.

tim


I assumed that by 'what can be bought elsewhere' Offramp meant Oyster
prepay.


Which is useless for a family of four who go to London once
a year.

tim


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In message , tim.....
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Now the Saver ticket was clearly put in place to encourage pre-purchase
of bus tickets and was done in a hurry to meet what I would speculate as
being a political timetable "for something to be done".


To solve what problem? Personally, I find the ability to buy
tickets in advance quite useful and can see good reasons for
providing such tickets


There's one further way they can be useful, for sending to people who
make one off trips. It's a fairly nicehe market admittedly, but I used
to work for a drugs rehabilitation/management charity that would give
their clients (undated) bus saver tickets and pre-date-stamped one day
travelcards for the client's next visit so they could attend their next
session without paying for travel.

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