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Old November 6th 07, 05:27 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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On Nov 6, 5:53 pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Ianigsy" wrote

This is the sort of thing which puts me off having one- to put things
into perspective, I live in Yorkshire and travel down to London
probably twice a year on average. I like the idea of not having to
queue at Kings Cross for a Travelcard (especially as Trainline et al
only seem to be able to sell Z1-2 ones as add-ons) and buy another one
every morning. Trouble is, when I come down in about ten days' time,
I may need to go to Walthamstow on the Sunday and the Victoria Line's
closed, so I'll have to use One from Liverpool Street instead- so I'll
presumably need a paper one that day and half the object of getting
one is defeated.


Liverpool Street - Walthamstow Central is one (no pun intended) of the
National Rail routes on which Oyster PAYG is already accepted (though

not at
intermediate

stations).http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/oysteronline/5823.aspx
Peter


It occurs to me that the 'Overground' network branding would make more
sense if it consisted of all non-LUL lines where Oyster PAYG is
accepted. This would be much easier for visitors to London (and
residents for that matter) to understand.

It would, but it would still be horrendously complicated, as there are
several routes where Oyster PAYG is accepted between specified points, but
not at intermediate stations.
As it is, if you have to make several journeys by bus and/or tube in a day,
Oyster PAYG is what you want, but add just one National Rail journey on
which Oyster PAYG is not accepted, and you need a paper ODTC - but if you
hold a Railcard you may want the paper ODTC anyway (but only at weekends if
it is a Network Card), even if you are not going to use National Rail.
Peter


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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Peter Masson wrote:

As it is, if you have to make several journeys by bus and/or tube in a
day, Oyster PAYG is what you want, but add just one National Rail
journey on which Oyster PAYG is not accepted, and you need a paper ODTC
- but if you hold a Railcard you may want the paper ODTC anyway (but
only at weekends if it is a Network Card), even if you are not going to
use National Rail.


How about if you could use pre-pay to buy an ODTC, and the way it worked
is that it just charged you enough to take you up to your cap. Then you
could roam around on PAYG, and convert to paper if you decided you wanted
a go on a train.

The process might also nullify the accumulated journeys on the card, to
avoid people fraudulently getting lots of free travelcards from one
oyster. Or it could print the travelcard saying "only valid with Oyster
card number such-and-such".

tom

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