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If DLR can run without drivers. Why can't the Victoria line have the
drivers turfed out of the cab and down checking tickets.
I know there is a higher frequency of trains on Victoria than DLR. But
surely if DLR can run safety with no drivers then underground lines can?
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CJG wrote:
If DLR can run without drivers. Why can't the Victoria line have the
drivers turfed out of the cab and down checking tickets.
I know there is a higher frequency of trains on Victoria than DLR. But
surely if DLR can run safety with no drivers then underground lines
can?


DLR trains have a train captain (or whatever they're now called) whose
duties include opening and closing the doors, and making sure that this is
done safely. He can do this from any of a number of points on the train
because the trains are short and the trains were designed that way.

On the tube, trains are much longer, hence TV is needed to enable the train
operator to close the doors safely with full visibility of the platform
(some of which are curved, unlike DLR). In practice this means that the
screens are either in the cab or at the front of the platform. Duplicate
screens and other equipment could be provided elsewhere in principle, but I
don't see how the extra cost could be justified.
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"Richard J." wrote:
CJG wrote:
If DLR can run without drivers. Why can't the Victoria line have the
drivers turfed out of the cab and down checking tickets.
I know there is a higher frequency of trains on Victoria than DLR. But
surely if DLR can run safety with no drivers then underground lines
can?


... Duplicate screens and other equipment could be provided elsewhere
in principle, but I don't see how the extra cost could be justified.


Do DLR trains get less internal vandalism than tube trains because the
train crew wanders around instead of staying locked in a cab?

Colin McKenzie
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"Colin McKenzie" wrote in message
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"Richard J." wrote:
CJG wrote:
If DLR can run without drivers. Why can't the Victoria line have the
drivers turfed out of the cab and down checking tickets.
I know there is a higher frequency of trains on Victoria than DLR. But
surely if DLR can run safety with no drivers then underground lines
can?


... Duplicate screens and other equipment could be provided elsewhere
in principle, but I don't see how the extra cost could be justified.


Do DLR trains get less internal vandalism than tube trains because the
train crew wanders around instead of staying locked in a cab?


It would appear so ...


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In message , Colin McKenzie
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Do DLR trains get less internal vandalism than tube trains because the
train crew wanders around instead of staying locked in a cab?


I can't say I use DLR that often. Maybe three times a month at most. But
they do seem a lot less vandalised than LU trains.
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Would you really trust a train with no actual driver in the cab? Be honest
now


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Just me and the world wrote:
Would you really trust a train with no actual driver in the cab? Be
honest now


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Would you really trust a train with no actual driver in the cab? Be

honest
now


Computers don't read the paper while driving (as witnessed on the Central
line a good few times now) or turn up to work ****ed up on booze (a
reference to recent reports about the levels of alcohol and drug abuse in
the workplace, including the railway industry).


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In message , Ed Crowley
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Computers don't read the paper while driving (as witnessed on the
Central line a good few times now) or turn up to work ****ed up on
booze (a reference to recent reports about the levels of alcohol and
drug abuse in the workplace, including the railway industry).


Or use a mobile phone whilst driving (obviously not underground)
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In article , Just me and the world
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Would you really trust a train with no actual driver in the cab? Be honest
now

You do on a lift. It's an awful smash if something really does go
wrong! And there is no driver in the CAB of a DLR train.

Michael Bell



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