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The price for a weekly rail-only season ticket from Hampton Court to
Waterloo listed at http://tinyurl.com/2flhgs is £29.30. My girlfriend
asked at Waterloo today and was told it was £33.80, just as the
nationalrail.co.uk season ticket calculator says.

Is there a way to get the £29.30 ticket or is that inaccurate information?
--
Michael Hoffman

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Michael Hoffman wrote:
The price for a weekly rail-only season ticket from Hampton Court to
Waterloo listed at http://tinyurl.com/2flhgs is £29.30. My
girlfriend asked at Waterloo today and was told it was £33.80, just
as the nationalrail.co.uk season ticket calculator says.

Is there a way to get the £29.30 ticket or is that inaccurate
information?

Looking on www.swt-seasontickets.com (an SWT badged version of the
Trainline season ticket booking engine) gives an Annual price for
Hampton Court to Vauxhall of £1172. Dividing this by 40 to get the 7 Day
rate gives the magic £29.30 figure.

In short, whoever prepared that page hasn't checked their figures before
posting.

Cheers,

Barry

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"Barry Salter" wrote in message
...
Michael Hoffman wrote:
The price for a weekly rail-only season ticket from Hampton Court to
Waterloo listed at http://tinyurl.com/2flhgs is £29.30. My
girlfriend asked at Waterloo today and was told it was £33.80, just
as the nationalrail.co.uk season ticket calculator says.

Is there a way to get the £29.30 ticket or is that inaccurate
information?

Looking on www.swt-seasontickets.com (an SWT badged version of the
Trainline season ticket booking engine) gives an Annual price for Hampton
Court to Vauxhall of £1172. Dividing this by 40 to get the 7 Day rate
gives the magic £29.30 figure.

In short, whoever prepared that page hasn't checked their figures before
posting.


Could it be a cockup somewhere due to their being separate seasons for
Hampton (London), Hampton Wick and Hampton Court?

Paul S

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On 9 Jan, 01:02, Michael Hoffman wrote:
The price for a weekly rail-only season ticket from Hampton Court to
Waterloo listed at http://tinyurl.com/2flhgs is £29.30. My girlfriend
asked at Waterloo today and was told it was £33.80, just as the
nationalrail.co.uk season ticket calculator says.

Is there a way to get the £29.30 ticket or is that inaccurate information?

This figure is now showing as an option on the NRE site alongside the
£33.80. It wasn't last night.

U

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Mr Thant wrote:
On 9 Jan, 01:02, Michael Hoffman wrote:
The price for a weekly rail-only season ticket from Hampton Court to
Waterloo listed at http://tinyurl.com/2flhgs is £29.30. My girlfriend
asked at Waterloo today and was told it was £33.80, just as the
nationalrail.co.uk season ticket calculator says.

Is there a way to get the £29.30 ticket or is that inaccurate information?

This figure is now showing as an option on the NRE site alongside the
£33.80. It wasn't last night.

That is really strange. On the other hand, I'm still not seeing it. This
is what I get:

Available Standard Class Adult Season Tickets
Between: Hampton Court (HMC)
And: London Waterloo (WAT)
Route Code: Travel is allowed by any route option shown by the Online
Journey Planner

Please note: You will need a passport sized photograph for a Photocard
when you purchase a season ticket.

More information about Season Tickets.

7 Days 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months 12 Months
£33.80 £129.80 £389.40 £778.80 £1,352.00

Available Standard Class Adult Season Tickets
Between: Hampton Court (HMC)
And: London Waterloo (WAT)
Route Code: Travel also available via Esher.
7 Days 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months 12 Months
£42.00 £161.30 £483.90 £967.70 £1,680.00
--
Michael Hoffman

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On 9 Jan, 14:29, Michael Hoffman wrote:
That is really strange. On the other hand, I'm still not seeing it. This
is what I get:

Ah. If you put in "London Waterloo" you only get two options, but if
you leave it as "London" you get a third:

Available Standard Class Adult Season Tickets
Between: Hampton Court (HMC)
And: London (182)
Route Code: Travel is allowed by any route option shown by the Online
Journey Planner
Please note: You will need a passport sized photograph for a Photocard
when you purchase a season ticket.

More information about Season Tickets.

7 Days 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months 12 Months
£29.30 £112.60 £337.60 £675.10 £1,172.00

U

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Mr Thant wrote:
On 9 Jan, 14:29, Michael Hoffman wrote:
That is really strange. On the other hand, I'm still not seeing it. This
is what I get:

Ah. If you put in "London Waterloo" you only get two options, but if
you leave it as "London" you get a third:

[...]

7 Days 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months 12 Months
£29.30 £112.60 £337.60 £675.10 £1,172.00

A-ha. If I try a Hampton Court to London monthly on
swt-seasontickets.com, I get my choice of:

Hampton Court-Vauxhall This ticket allows travel on any permitted
route. view £112.60
Hampton Court-London Terminals This ticket allows travel on any
permitted route. view £129.80
Hampton Court-London St Pancrs This ticket is only valid for routes not
involving tube travel. view £129.80
Hampton Court-London Terminals This ticket is only valid for routes
passing through Esher. view £161.30
Hampton Court-Zone R1256 Zones This ticket allows travel on any
permitted route. view £171.30

I suppose the St. Pancras ticket is via Wimbledon and Thameslink, which
I hadn't thought of.

The question remains whether it is possible to get all the way to
Waterloo for GBP 29.30/112.60 as advertised in at least two locations
now, we see. Any ideas?
--
Michael Hoffman

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On 9 Jan, 15:20, Michael Hoffman wrote:

Hampton Court-London Terminals *This ticket is only valid for routes
passing through Esher. *view * *£161.30 * * * *


I'm baffled - which Hampton Court - London Terminals routes
would pass through Esher? Some mad commute to Paddington
via Basingstoke and Reading?

Thanks

Henry

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Henry wrote:
On 9 Jan, 15:20, Michael Hoffman wrote:

Hampton Court-London Terminals This ticket is only valid for routes
passing through Esher. view £161.30


I'm baffled - which Hampton Court - London Terminals routes
would pass through Esher? Some mad commute to Paddington
via Basingstoke and Reading?

It is actually a dual-availability season ticket that is valid to both
Hampton Court and Esher. The description is not very helpful though.

Peter Smyth

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On 9 Jan, 18:21, Henry wrote:
I'm baffled - which Hampton Court - London Terminals routes
would pass through Esher? Some mad commute to Paddington
via Basingstoke and Reading?

I think that's a dual route availability ticket. It means you have the
option of catching an Esher-London train instead of a train from
Hampton Court.

U

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On 9 Jan, 19:17, "Peter Smyth" wrote:
Henry wrote:
On 9 Jan, 15:20, Michael Hoffman wrote:

Hampton Court-London Terminals This ticket is only valid for routes
passing through Esher. view £161.30

I'm baffled - which Hampton Court - London Terminals routes
would pass through Esher?
...
It is actually a dual-availability season ticket that is valid to both
Hampton Court and Esher. The description is not very helpful though.

Thanks.

An extra 30 quid a week for the option of driving to Esher?
SWT must be rubbing their hands in glee at the
proposed Jolly Boatman works...

Henry

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Henry wrote:

SWT must be rubbing their hands in glee at the
proposed Jolly Boatman works...

Is Hampton Court Station going to close?
--
Michael Hoffman

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On 10 Jan, 22:05, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Henry wrote:
SWT must be rubbing their hands in glee at the
proposed Jolly Boatman works...

Is Hampton Court Station going to close?

Not permanently, but the application involves a lot of building work,
including moving the car park underground, so I'd expect a lot of
disruption (I don't think there's a Hampton Court-Esher bus link
any more, so these tickets are presumably for car-borne
commuters).

The application is 2007/2970 , 2971 & 2972 accessible via
http://www.elmbridge.gov.uk/services...ningonline.htm

I'd expect something in all of that about interim arrangements
during the works, but I've not managed to wade through it all yet.

Thanks

Henry

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Henry wrote

Is Hampton Court Station going to close?

Not permanently, but the application involves a lot of building work,
including moving the car park underground, so I'd expect a lot of
disruption (I don't think there's a Hampton Court-Esher bus link
any more, so these tickets are presumably for car-borne
commuters).

There is such a link but it's useless: 513 Kingston-Hampton
Court-Esher-Cobham-Downside 3 buses a day. I suppose a commuter might
live or park their car at some point where both stations (2 miles apart
by road) are a reasonable choice - long ago I was issued, at no extra
cost and without being asked, a season from Walton-on-Thames OR Cobham
to Waterloo.

--
Mike D

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The question remains whether it is possible to get all the way to
Waterloo for GBP 29.30/112.60 as advertised in at least two locations
now, we see. Any ideas?

I'm fairly sure not - I travel from Thames Ditton and have picked up
on the grapevine that there's a cheaper price for London for those who
don't go to Waterloo, e.g. those who travel to Vauxhall and get the
tube from there (or even just walk from Vauxhall). Waterloo counts as
London Terminals, so you're stuck with the higher price.

Clapham Junction may also count as "London" in the above.

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On Jan 11, 11:41 am, "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:
Henry wrote

Is Hampton Court Station going to close?

Not permanently, but the application involves a lot of building work,
including moving the car park underground, so I'd expect a lot of
disruption (I don't think there's a Hampton Court-Esher bus link
any more, so these tickets are presumably for car-borne
commuters).

There is such a link but it's useless: 513 Kingston-Hampton
Court-Esher-Cobham-Downside 3 buses a day.

Also, for some mysterious reason appears that this only calls at
Hampton Court _Station_ going towards Esher, but not on the
return journey.

I suppose a commuter might
live or park their car at some point where both stations (2 miles apart
by road) are a reasonable choice
....

There are the residential roads south of the Ember (though you'd make
yourself unpopular parking there) - but, if you were doing that, I'd
have
thought it would make more sense to walk to Thames Ditton station
rather than all the way to Hampton Court. Also Thames Ditton station
is connected to Esher by both the 513 bus and the 515
Kingston - Thames Ditton - Esher - Guildford service.

Is an Esher-or-Thames Ditton to London season available?
Not sure where to look online that doesn't want me to register.

Thanks

Henry

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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:34:10 -0800 (PST), Henry wrote:

Is an Esher-or-Thames Ditton to London season available?
Not sure where to look online that doesn't want me to register.

All of the dual availability season tickets are listed in Section N of
the NFM: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/passen...s/manuals.html
(you want the London version).

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On 17 Jan, 21:07, asdf wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:34:10 -0800 (PST), Henry wrote:
Is an Esher-or-Thames Ditton to London season available?
Not sure where to look online that doesn't want me to register.

All of the dual availability season tickets are listed in Section N of
the NFM:http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/passen...s/manuals.html
(you want the London version).

That's great, thanks.

Aha, an Esher - Hampton Court - Thames Ditton threeway lurks there!

Henry

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In message
, at
17:34:10 on Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Henry remarked:
There is such a link but it's useless: 513 Kingston-Hampton
Court-Esher-Cobham-Downside 3 buses a day.

Also, for some mysterious reason appears that this only calls at
Hampton Court _Station_ going towards Esher, but not on the
return journey.

Isn't the road rather wide there, maybe the bus stop for the opposite
direction is called something else?
--
Roland Perry

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On 18 Jan, 08:49, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
17:34:10 on Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Henry remarked:

There is such a link but it's useless: 513 Kingston-Hampton
Court-Esher-Cobham-Downside 3 buses a day.

Also, for some mysterious reason appears that this only calls at
Hampton Court _Station_ going towards Esher, but not on the
return journey.

Isn't the road rather wide there,

There are two lanes in each direction but it's pretty
busy most of the day, especially in the Kingston
direction as the traffic backs up from the roundabout
across the river. The buses can't really stop in the road,
and there are too many side turnings to build a bay without
blocking sight lines.

maybe the bus stop for the opposite
direction is called something else?

Going towards Esher, the buses pull off into the station
forecourt, but on the way back the last official stop before
the Green (on the other side of the Thames) is Summer Road,
(by the level crossing).
That probably counts as walking distance if you're fit enough
to cross the road in mid-traffic to the station-side pavement
immediately; otherwise there's currently a couple of hundred
yards of mud slick and a couple of nasty junctions to negotiate
to reach the pelican crossing at the station.

The obvious solution would be to turn into the gyratory and
share the bay already used by buses heading along the riverbank,
but simply go right round and turn left back on to the bridge.

Of course that would mean buses both to and (~hourly) from
Kingston sharing a stop, which no doubt violates some
incontestable diktat. :(

Hth

Henry

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Henry wrote

Also, for some mysterious reason appears that this only calls at
Hampton Court _Station_ going towards Esher, but not on the
return journey.

Going towards Esher, the buses pull off into the station
forecourt, but on the way back the last official stop before
the Green (on the other side of the Thames) is Summer Road,
(by the level crossing).
That probably counts as walking distance if you're fit enough
to cross the road in mid-traffic to the station-side pavement
immediately; otherwise there's currently a couple of hundred
yards of mud slick and a couple of nasty junctions to negotiate
to reach the pelican crossing at the station.

The obvious solution would be to turn into the gyratory and
share the bay already used by buses heading along the riverbank,
but simply go right round and turn left back on to the bridge.

Probably unnecessary since there is already a stop for other buses to
Kingston just before they turn left on to the bridge (451,461)

Of course that would mean buses both to and (~hourly) from
Kingston sharing a stop, which no doubt violates some
incontestable diktat. :(

There are examples where even the same route number shares a stop in
opposite directions. In Surrey I know of examples at Walton station,
Cobham (Waitrose), Sunbury Tesco and in Byfleet. Is this a "double
teacup" ?

OTOH in Esher with three routes to Kingston the paths taken and the
one-way system result in the buses that use those routes leaving from
three different (and widely separated) stops.

--
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On 25 Jan, 17:20, "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:
Henry wrote
Also, for some mysterious reason appears that this only calls at
Hampton Court _Station_ going towards Esher, but not on the
return journey.

The obvious solution would be to turn into the gyratory and
share the bay already used by buses heading along the riverbank,
but simply go right round and turn left back on to the bridge.

Probably unnecessary since there is already a stop for other buses to
Kingston just before they turn left on to the bridge (451,461)

No, that stop is on the riverbank before what I've called the
gyratory,
so the 513 can't reach it.

Of course that would mean buses both to and (~hourly) from
Kingston sharing a stop, which no doubt violates some
incontestable diktat. :(

There are examples where even the same route number shares a stop in
opposite directions. In Surrey I know of examples at Walton station,
Cobham (Waitrose), Sunbury Tesco and in Byfleet. Is this a "double
teacup" ?

I did mean to imply that any such ruling would be rather pointless
in this case - I doubt many Kingston-bound passengers would wait
at that stop for a thrice-a-day bus...

I'm not sure whether that's a Surrey or TfL stop though (if that
would make any difference).

Hth

Henry

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Henry wrote

I'm not sure whether that's a Surrey or TfL stop though (if that
would make any difference).

It is located in Surrey (even though Hampton Court station is now in
zone 6, this didn't affect buses) but is IIRC of TfL design and has Tfl
cross-boundary buses (route 411) calling.

--
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On 30 Jan, 20:27, "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:
Henry wrote

I'm not sure whether that's a Surrey or TfL stop though (if that
would make any difference).

It is located in Surrey (even though Hampton Court station is now in
zone 6, this didn't affect buses) but is IIRC of TfL design and has Tfl
cross-boundary buses (route 411) calling.

No, the 411 goes down the next road along.

For some reason all the stops around Hampton Court station are TfL,
including the ones by the riverbank served only by the 451/461.
One's even solar-powered, so they haven't been just been standing
there since 211 days...

Thanks

Henry