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Old January 13th 08, 01:23 PM posted to uk.transport.london, uk.railway
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Default Oyster and National Rail season tickets

On 12 Jan, 19:37, David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote:
Mizter T wrote in news:0eed117e-58ec-4f04-8b8e-
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What is definitely allowed is to combine a season Travelcard and a
rail-only season ticket when your train stops at the point when you
swap between the two tickets - so lets say you travel from Woking to
London Waterloo, then as long as you got on a train that stopped at
Surbiton you could have a Woking to Surbiton rail-only season (as a
printed ticket), and then a zones 1-6 season Travelcard (issued on
Oyster if you so desire) which would kick in at Surbiton (Surbiton
being in zone 6).
What I'm less clear on is whether this would be allowed if the Woking
to London Waterloo train did not stop at Surbiton (as only some trains
from Woking to Waterloo do stop there). Perhaps someone can put me
right on this once and for all!


From the National Rail Conditions of Carriage:

"19. Using a combination of tickets

You may use two or more tickets for one journey as long as together they
cover the entire journey and one of the following applies:

(a) they are both Zonal Tickets (unless special conditions prohibit
their use);

(b) the train you are in calls at the station where you change from one
ticket to another; or

(c) one of the tickets is a Season Ticket (which for this purpose does
not include Season Tickets or travel passes issued on behalf of a
passenger transport executive or
local authority) or a leisure travel pass, and the other ticket(s)
is/are not."

In this case (a) does not apply as Woking to Surbiton is not "Zonal",
(b) doesn't if the train doesn't stop at Surbiton and (c) doesn't as
both the tickets are season tickets and neither is issued by a PTE or
local authority.

So the combination is not valid.

David


Hmm. How annoying.

I expected the response to be the same as stated above, as it'd be far
too convenient otherwise. I need Zone 1-5 (I go into KX via Euston)
and London to Cambridge, so whilst an annual Oyster is cheaper than
PAYG, the separate tickets would cost ~£696.00 more than a combined
CAM-LT + 1-6 ticket, but if I could get Cambridge-Oakleigh Park and a
1-5 Oyster TC, then that's only £36 more than the paper ticket, and a
lot more convenient. I imagine they price them based on the fact the
TC covers you all the way out to Hadley Wood anyway, so it just seems
malicious that they wouldn't let you mix the two on a non-stopping
train.
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