Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

Has this ever been considered? Trains could run from
Barking/Whitechapel to Edgware Road and then on to either Hammersmith
or Wimbledon. Abolish the Circle Line to get the extra C stock
necessary, and use the spare D stock trains for Kensington
Olympia-Tower Hill-Barking District Line services.
Would there be enough C stock trains to do this? Probably have to
terminate some at Edgware Road.

--
Paul

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

"Paul Bowery" wrote in message
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Has this ever been considered? Trains could run from
Barking/Whitechapel to Edgware Road and then on to either Hammersmith
or Wimbledon. Abolish the Circle Line

and how do people with luggage get through the two bits that you have now
eliminated?

tim

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

On 23 Jan, 18:08, "tim \(not at home\)"
wrote:

Has this ever been considered? Trains could run from
Barking/Whitechapel to Edgware Road and then on to either Hammersmith
or Wimbledon. Abolish the Circle Line

and how do people with luggage get through the two bits that you have now
eliminated?

Earl's Court with luggage isn't too disastrous. Aldgate East would be
no fun, however.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

On 23 Jan, 17:58, Paul Bowery wrote:
Has this ever been considered? Trains could run from
Barking/Whitechapel to Edgware Road and then on to either Hammersmith
or Wimbledon. Abolish the Circle Line to get the extra C stock
necessary, and use the spare D stock trains for Kensington
Olympia-Tower Hill-Barking District Line services.
Would there be enough C stock trains to do this? Probably have to
terminate some at Edgware Road.

I think it would be a good idea for the wimbleware branch to be shown
as a seperate line on the diagrams in the same way the H&C was hived
off from the Met years ago. Using D stock its not possible to have a
through route to Edgware road therefor that branch shouldn't be part
of the District line. Having it shown as a seperate line would make it
less confusing for all IMO though god knows what colour is left that
they could use.

B2003

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

On Jan 23, 6:50*pm, Boltar wrote:
On 23 Jan, 17:58, Paul Bowery wrote:

Has this ever been considered? Trains could run from
Barking/Whitechapel to Edgware Road and then on to either Hammersmith
or Wimbledon. Abolish the Circle Line to get the extra C stock
necessary, and use the spare D stock trains for Kensington
Olympia-Tower Hill-Barking District Line services.
Would there be enough C stock trains to do this? Probably have to
terminate some at Edgware Road.

I think it would be a good idea for the wimbleware branch to be shown
as a seperate line on the diagrams in the same way the H&C was hived
off from the Met years ago. Using D stock its not possible to have a
through route to Edgware road therefor that branch shouldn't be part
of the District line. Having it shown as a seperate line would make it
less confusing for all IMO though god knows what colour is left that
they could use.

B2003

I've noticed that for the last year or so the Olympia line has finally
been taken off the internal diagrams in the C stock, which never went
there as far as I know.

But it may be the D stock going to Olympia that makes it difficult to
separate (although why shouldn't C stock go there anyway I wonder?).

I am not sure what the original poster meant by spare D stock.

In the meantime, I notice that the East London Line has gone from the
diagrams in the double-ended A stock units, but the window stickers
seem to be a bit more tenacious.

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

On 23 Jan, 20:05, MIG wrote:
I am not sure what the original poster meant by spare D stock.

I think the idea is that all Wimbledon trains are C stock running to
Edgware Road and beyond, which I don't think the lines uses would be
happy about. That and the loss of most of the Circle pretty much kill
this proposal.

U

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Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

On Jan 23, 8:13*pm, Mr Thant
wrote:
On 23 Jan, 20:05, MIG wrote:

I am not sure what the original poster meant by spare D stock.

I think the idea is that all Wimbledon trains are C stock running to
Edgware Road and beyond, which I don't think the lines uses would be
happy about. That and the loss of most of the Circle pretty much kill
this proposal.


I guessed that might be the idea, replacing the Circle frequency from
HSK to Edgware Road, but beyond there, how would extra services fit
in: cut the Metropolitan at Baker Street?

One might cynically point out that the Circle Line rarely runs, but in
various ways I don't think it's a goer.

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

On Jan 23, 8:19*pm, MIG wrote:
On Jan 23, 8:13*pm, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 23 Jan, 20:05, MIG wrote:

I am not sure what the original poster meant by spare D stock.

I think the idea is that all Wimbledon trains are C stock running to
Edgware Road and beyond, which I don't think the lines uses would be
happy about. That and the loss of most of the Circle pretty much kill
this proposal.

I guessed that might be the idea, replacing the Circle frequency from
HSK to Edgware Road, but beyond there, how would extra services fit
in: cut the Metropolitan at Baker Street?

What I just said made no sense, sorry.

I still don't think it's a goer.

One might cynically point out that the Circle Line rarely runs, but in
various ways I don't think it's a goer.

One might still do that.

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

MIG wrote:
On Jan 23, 6:50 pm, Boltar wrote:
On 23 Jan, 17:58, Paul Bowery wrote:

Has this ever been considered? Trains could run from
Barking/Whitechapel to Edgware Road and then on to either
Hammersmith or Wimbledon. Abolish the Circle Line to get the
extra C stock necessary, and use the spare D stock trains for
Kensington Olympia-Tower Hill-Barking District Line services.
Would there be enough C stock trains to do this? Probably have to
terminate some at Edgware Road.

I think it would be a good idea for the wimbleware branch to be
shown as a seperate line on the diagrams in the same way the H&C
was hived off from the Met years ago. Using D stock its not
possible to have a through route to Edgware road therefor that
branch shouldn't be part of the District line. Having it shown as
a seperate line would make it less confusing for all IMO though
god knows what colour is left that they could use.

B2003

I've noticed that for the last year or so the Olympia line has
finally been taken off the internal diagrams in the C stock, which
never went there as far as I know.

But it may be the D stock going to Olympia that makes it difficult
to separate (although why shouldn't C stock go there anyway I
wonder?).

I've seen C stock on an Edgware Road - Olympia service at weekends,
probably when engineering work has disrupted the normal service pattern.
Olympia is available as a destination on the platform indicators between
Hig St Ken and Edgware Road.

D stock is more reliable than C, and hence it is probably better to rely
on D-stock trains from Ealing Common depot than C-stock from
Hammersmith.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Combining Hammersmith & City with Wimbledon branch?
 

MIG wrote:

I've noticed that for the last year or so the Olympia line has finally
been taken off the internal diagrams in the C stock, which never went
there as far as I know.

District Line Working Timetable number 125, which was used from 28th
September 1997 until 26th September 1998, had alternate Edgware Road trains
in the morning peak serving Wimbledon and Olympia. I have no idea how many
years this arrangement lasted.