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lonelytraveller February 15th 08 10:07 PM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


Offramp February 16th 08 08:33 AM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
On Feb 15, 11:07 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


I am going to go and have a look at it right now.

tim \(not at home\) February 16th 08 11:23 AM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 

"lonelytraveller" wrote in
message
...
At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


Surely there's Victorian tiling in all (most) underground stations,
undernath all of the modern **** that stuck on top

tim



lonelytraveller February 16th 08 11:30 AM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
On 16 Feb, 12:23, "tim \(not at home\)"
wrote:
"lonelytraveller" wrote in
...

At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


Surely there's Victorian tiling in all (most) underground stations,
undernath all of the modern **** that stuck on top

tim


But the Victorians didn't have escalators, so why would there have
been a passageway in that particular location? Its parallel and next
to the passage between the bakerloo line and the northbound northern
line platforms, so it doesn't seem to be purposeful.

MIG February 16th 08 02:47 PM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
On Feb 16, 12:30*pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 16 Feb, 12:23, "tim \(not at home\)"
wrote:

"lonelytraveller" wrote in
...


At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


Surely there's Victorian tiling in all (most) underground stations,
undernath all of the modern **** that stuck on top


tim


But the Victorians didn't have escalators, so why would there have
been a passageway in that particular location? Its parallel and next
to the passage between the bakerloo line and the northbound northern
line platforms, so it doesn't seem to be purposeful.


I'm not quite picturing all this. There would be nothing at Bakerloo/
Northern level till about 1906 or so would there?

Do you mean that there was a deep passageway predating those lines?

[email protected] February 17th 08 03:32 PM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
On 16 Feb, 12:30, lonelytraveller
wrote:

But the Victorians didn't have escalators, so why would there have
been a passageway in that particular location? Its parallel and next
to the passage between the bakerloo line and the northbound northern
line platforms, so it doesn't seem to be purposeful.


Don't forget that most deep stations had lifts in the beginning.
Staircases were converted to escalator machine chambers also.

Colin Rosenstiel February 17th 08 09:06 PM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
In article
,
(lonelytraveller) wrote:

At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


Given that the Northern Line opened in 1907, I doubt it's actually
Victorian. Edwardian I might believe.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

lonelytraveller February 17th 08 09:35 PM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
On 16 Feb, 15:47, MIG wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:30 pm, lonelytraveller



wrote:
On 16 Feb, 12:23, "tim \(not at home\)"
wrote:


"lonelytraveller" wrote in
...


At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


Surely there's Victorian tiling in all (most) underground stations,
undernath all of the modern **** that stuck on top


tim


But the Victorians didn't have escalators, so why would there have
been a passageway in that particular location? Its parallel and next
to the passage between the bakerloo line and the northbound northern
line platforms, so it doesn't seem to be purposeful.


I'm not quite picturing all this. There would be nothing at Bakerloo/
Northern level till about 1906 or so would there?

Do you mean that there was a deep passageway predating those lines?


No. It would have appeared with the Northern line there. From a
distance it looks like the tiling is similar to the bakerloo line
station at Edgeware road - those decorative green tiles about mid way
up the walls - it would look glorious if it was cleaned up and on
show.

But it definitely looks older than the escalator. Anyway, I'm fairly
certain the escalator isn't original, on account of the very awkward
access to the clearly old spiral staircase adjacent to it at the top
landing.

Paul Scott February 17th 08 09:41 PM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
.co.uk...
In article
,
(lonelytraveller) wrote:

At embankment station, there's a room behind/under the down escalator
leading to the northbound northern line platform .There's victorian
tiling on the right hand wall as you look in from the foot of the
escalator; why?


Given that the Northern Line opened in 1907, I doubt it's actually
Victorian. Edwardian I might believe.


Built using a stockpile of Victorian tiles? Perhaps they bought a job lot
cheap after Victoria's death... But seriously, how quickly do architectural
styles/materials change?

Paul S



lonelytraveller February 17th 08 09:44 PM

Victorian Tiling at Embankment
 
On 17 Feb, 16:32, " wrote:
On 16 Feb, 12:30, lonelytraveller

wrote:

But the Victorians didn't have escalators, so why would there have
been a passageway in that particular location? Its parallel and next
to the passage between the bakerloo line and the northbound northern
line platforms, so it doesn't seem to be purposeful.


Don't forget that most deep stations had lifts in the beginning.
Staircases were converted to escalator machine chambers also.


A lift is possible, but where would it have gone? The passage is
directly beneath the westbound platform of the circle/district, and a
lift shaft there would have to have cut through the platforms, making
them rather awkward. Now there clearly used to be a lift of some sort
on the northern side, as the escalator on the northern side from the
under-circle-line passages to the ticket hall passes through a space
that is clearly circular, and cut-through lift-shaft like. But I can't
fathom where the lift could have gone to, since there doesn't appear
to be any passage on the northern side of the northern-bakerloo link.

Its more like it goes somewhere that could then go to a lift perhaps.
Perhaps it linked up with the other side of the spiral staircase?

That spiral staircase is a bit of a curiosity really - why is it
situated so far to the south of the passage linking bakerloo to
northern line, but only go high enough to emerge beneath the circle
line platforms; if it was intended to only go that high, it would have
been better to put it next to the linking passage, if it was set so
far south for the purpose of reaching the surface, why doesn't it.


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