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And is there any world experience of high capacity modern double-deck
trolleybuses at all?


They have very effective trolly-bendy-buses in Geneva.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/.../Geneve-02.jpg

And some that are more like trams-on-tyres:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/.../Geneve-04.jpg

The only remaining modern double decker trolleybus may be this one in
Hong Kong (a trial, apparently now discontinued):

http://www.trolleybus.net/hk.htm
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In message .uk, at
15:07:00 on Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Colin Rosenstiel
remarked:
And is there any world experience of high capacity modern double-deck
trolleybuses at all?


They have very effective trolly-bendy-buses in Geneva.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/.../Geneve-02.jpg

And some that are more like trams-on-tyres:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/.../Geneve-04.jpg


That's the only one looking to be above what diesel technology could
deliver. I note that Geneva trolleybuses are all single deck, though.

The only remaining modern double decker trolleybus may be this one in
Hong Kong (a trial, apparently now discontinued):

http://www.trolleybus.net/hk.htm


It's not clear how much bigger than a standard diesel double that is, let
alone whether it would be able to work in the UK.

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In message .uk, at
21:25:00 on Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Colin Rosenstiel
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http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/.../Geneve-04.jpg


That's the only one looking to be above what diesel technology could
deliver. I note that Geneva trolleybuses are all single deck, though.


A double-decker might foul the wires!

The only remaining modern double decker trolleybus may be this one in
Hong Kong (a trial, apparently now discontinued):

http://www.trolleybus.net/hk.htm


It's not clear how much bigger than a standard diesel double that is,


About the same size as the larger ones (as used secondhand as tour buses
in London).

let alone whether it would be able to work in the UK.


I don't know why it wouldn't, if the wires were a suitable height.
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In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message .uk,
at 21:25:00 on Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Colin Rosenstiel
remarked:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/.../Geneve-04.jpg

That's the only one looking to be above what diesel technology could
deliver. I note that Geneva trolleybuses are all single deck, though.


A double-decker might foul the wires!


Yes, but not in London! How does the four axle jobbie's capacity compare
with London's Citaro bendies?

The only remaining modern double decker trolleybus may be this one

in
Hong Kong (a trial, apparently now discontinued):

http://www.trolleybus.net/hk.htm


It's not clear how much bigger than a standard diesel double that is,


About the same size as the larger ones (as used secondhand as tour
buses in London).


So, like as ERM maybe (80 seats)?

let alone whether it would be able to work in the UK.


I don't know why it wouldn't, if the wires were a suitable height.


Construction and Use Regulations. They and their predecessors have done
more to hold back London bus development in the past than technology.

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