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Do drivers get pleasure from closing the doors and preventing people from
getting on?....I think the answer is yes. I reckon they time it perfectly.


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Do drivers get pleasure from closing the doors and preventing people from
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Yep, first for the next one... ;-)
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:02:27 GMT, "Richard J."
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Do drivers get pleasure from closing the doors and preventing people
from getting on?....I think the answer is yes. I reckon they time it
perfectly.


In the peaks, if it means that the train runs to time and the following ones
are not delayed, then that's the right thing to do, as it benefits most
passengers. Yes, drivers should certainly be pleased to achieve that.


No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers In any case, isn't it quicker overall to let passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from following
trains?

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On Mar 11, 6:07 pm, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:02:27 GMT, "Richard J."

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Do drivers get pleasure from closing the doors and preventing people
from getting on?....I think the answer is yes. I reckon they time it
perfectly.


In the peaks, if it means that the train runs to time and the following ones
are not delayed, then that's the right thing to do, as it benefits most
passengers. Yes, drivers should certainly be pleased to achieve that.


No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers In any case, isn't it quicker overall to let passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from following
trains?


Essentially you are saying that, at very busy stations like Victoria,
every train should only leave the platform when it is full.
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On 11 Mar, 18:47, Offramp wrote:

On Mar 11, 6:07 pm, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:02:27 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

wrote:
Do drivers get pleasure from closing the doors and preventing people
from getting on?....I think the answer is yes. I reckon they time it
perfectly.


In the peaks, if it means that the train runs to time and the following ones
are not delayed, then that's the right thing to do, as it benefits most
passengers. Yes, drivers should certainly be pleased to achieve that.


No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers In any case, isn't it quicker overall to let passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from following
trains?


Essentially you are saying that, at very busy stations like Victoria,
every train should only leave the platform when it is full.



Indeed - at many places the platform will never be clear, the torrent
of passengers is unending.

I find it bizarre to see people who get in a massive rage just because
they've just missed a train and have to wait a couple of minutes for
the next one. Get some perspective!
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On 11 Mar, 18:07, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers


Depends which customers - waiting for one person to board
inconveniences all the ones already on the train trying to get
somewhere. Drivers regularly waiting for every last customer is one of
the remaining bad things about bus travel.

*In any case, isn't it quicker overall *to let *passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from following
trains?


No, since the platform is likely to fill up again anyway. On a high
frequency service, getting a few more trains through is going to be
better for capacity than making sure each one picks up every last
passenger.

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Mr Thant wrote:
On 11 Mar, 18:07, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers


Depends which customers - waiting for one person to board
inconveniences all the ones already on the train trying to get
somewhere. Drivers regularly waiting for every last customer is one of
the remaining bad things about bus travel.

In any case, isn't it quicker overall to let passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from
following trains?


No, since the platform is likely to fill up again anyway. On a high
frequency service, getting a few more trains through is going to be
better for capacity than making sure each one picks up every last
passenger.


People will have to get used to mainline trains leaving pax on the platform
as well, because its the only way the planned frequencies on the likes of
Crossrail and Thameslink are going to be achieved...

Paul S



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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Paul Scott wrote:

Mr Thant wrote:
On 11 Mar, 18:07, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers


Depends which customers - waiting for one person to board
inconveniences all the ones already on the train trying to get
somewhere. Drivers regularly waiting for every last customer is one of
the remaining bad things about bus travel.

In any case, isn't it quicker overall to let passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from
following trains?


No, since the platform is likely to fill up again anyway. On a high
frequency service, getting a few more trains through is going to be
better for capacity than making sure each one picks up every last
passenger.


People will have to get used to mainline trains leaving pax on the platform
as well, because its the only way the planned frequencies on the likes of
Crossrail and Thameslink are going to be achieved...


Random though, but what we need is train doors that swing outward rather
than sliding. It'd clear a space on the platform for people to alight, and
might make that currently utterly infuriating step a little quicker.

tom

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