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Tom Barry May 9th 08 12:33 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
Mark Robinson wrote:
1506 wrote:

As an asside many US transit systmes ban eating and drinking, of any
sort, on board buses and trains. LA Metro comes to mind.


In the UK, Metrolink bans all food and drink (maybe other tram systems
too?) I was once allowed to *carry* a takeaway on a Metrolink tram by
the TTIs, so long as I kept it wrapped up and wasn't tempted to eat
any of it. I was told in no uncertain terms that even this concession
was on a "Just this once" basis.


To which the obvious next question is - is Metrolink better or worse for
drunken loutish behaviour than the London Underground? I've no idea how
to answer that, though, but here's a start:

http://www.almostwitty.com/weird/an-...the-metrolink/

Tom

Peter Masson May 9th 08 12:42 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 

wrote

Whoever operates the trollies on "Southern" services did have alcahol
available a few months back on the Brighton line. I wouldn't normally
take a lot of notice, however a business type indulged in a couple of
shorts en route to Brighton on the 09.06 from Victoria and recieved
some unaproving glances.


It looks as though the Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, is jumping on the Boris
Johnson bandwagon, and is threatening to ban alocohol from all trains
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3897384.ece

Peter



John B May 9th 08 12:55 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
On 9 May, 13:42, "Peter Masson" wrote:
Whoever operates the trollies on "Southern" services did have alcahol
available a few months back on the Brighton line. I wouldn't normally
take a lot of notice, however a business type indulged in a couple of
shorts en route to Brighton on the 09.06 from Victoria and recieved
some unaproving glances.


It looks as though the Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, is jumping on the Boris
Johnson bandwagon, and is threatening to ban alocohol from all trains
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3897384.ece


To be fair to Jacqui Smith (and other sentences you'll seldom see
used), she actually said:

"I also understand people's concerns about anti-social behaviour on
public transport. Working with passengers, transport staff and
operators, Ruth Kelly and I will take action to answer these concerns.

"We want to stamp out ASB on our buses, trains and trams. If more
powers are needed to protect staff and the travelling public, we will
provide them."

I don't see that as a call for a ban on alcohol on all trains,
although there may be something I've missed.

[I'm deeply unimpressed that the authoritarian press are taking
Boris's election as a vindication that The Public want to see booze
banned everywhere, rather than proof that Labour have become so
unpopular that even the Ken bounce couldn't hold them the Mayoralty no
matter what kind of buffoon the Tories put forward nor how daft his
policies...]

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

Tom Anderson May 9th 08 01:08 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Tom Barry wrote:

Mark Robinson wrote:
1506 wrote:

As an asside many US transit systmes ban eating and drinking, of any
sort, on board buses and trains. LA Metro comes to mind.


In the UK, Metrolink bans all food and drink (maybe other tram systems
too?) I was once allowed to *carry* a takeaway on a Metrolink tram by
the TTIs, so long as I kept it wrapped up and wasn't tempted to eat any
of it. I was told in no uncertain terms that even this concession was
on a "Just this once" basis.


To which the obvious next question is - is Metrolink better or worse for
drunken loutish behaviour than the London Underground? I've no idea how
to answer that, though, but here's a start:

http://www.almostwitty.com/weird/an-...the-metrolink/


On-train dealers! When oh when will we have such luxuries in London?

tom

--
I could tell you a great many more particulars but suppose that you are
tired of it by this time. -- John Backhouse, Trainspotter Zero

1506 May 9th 08 03:51 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
On May 9, 2:26*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
15:45:28 on Thu, 8 May 2008, 1506
remarked:

With some difficulty one would have thought. *At one time, one of the
Circle Line stations had a bar on the platform. *IIRC it was Saint
James Park.


Sloan Square, I thought.


Yes, that is the one. *It has been a while!


Also Liverpool St.
--
Roland Perry


Wow, I didn't know that. Which platform is it on?


Eric May 9th 08 06:54 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
On 2008-05-09, Rob wrote:
On May 8, 9:55*pm, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:09:52 +0100, "Paul Scott"

wrote:
They'll probably have walk through machines to test it for the presence of
gin or vodka by then


:-)


It did occur to me that those who wish to continue drinking alcohol on
the Tube will just get round the new rule by carrying it mixed with a
soft drink in the appropriate soft drink container.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.


I am working on a mental sleeve that fits around a can of Tennants
Super that makes it look like you are drinking Fanta

Rob


Long ago and far away, a friend of mine had an enormous number of
soft-drink cans that contained beer.

He worked for a brewery that had bought a new canning machine which had
to be tested before the cans arrived, so they used whatever they could
get that would work in the machine. Of course it was illegal to sell
them, and may even have been illegal to give them away, so they put them
on pallets under a tarpaulin at the back of the brewery yard, and
'forgot' about them. They're still there, of course :) .

My friend liked to give them to thirsty friends and acquaintances
without warning so he could enjoy the reaction.

E

Roland Perry May 10th 08 09:41 AM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
In message
, at
08:51:16 on Fri, 9 May 2008, 1506
remarked:
With some difficulty one would have thought. *At one time, one of the
Circle Line stations had a bar on the platform. *IIRC it was Saint
James Park.


Sloan Square, I thought.


Yes, that is the one. *It has been a while!


Also Liverpool St.


Wow, I didn't know that. Which platform is it on?


*was* on... the outer Circle line platform, near the driver's end
apparently.
--
Roland Perry

Stimpy May 10th 08 10:14 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:08:47 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote

To which the obvious next question is - is Metrolink better or worse for
drunken loutish behaviour than the London Underground? I've no idea how
to answer that, though, but here's a start:

http://www.almostwitty.com/weird/an-...the-metrolink/


On-train dealers! When oh when will we have such luxuries in London?


Perfect for buying that enlivening 'line' before work in the morning :-)


Colin Rosenstiel May 10th 08 10:25 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
In article ,
(Tom Barry) wrote:

Richard J. wrote:

It was managed by Silverlink previously. LU only took over the
managment when LO was launched. I assume that formally it's still
owned by Network Rail.


Thanks for clearing that up, I thought it went LU before the LO
takeover, but the announcement could have been well in advance of
it happening.


I'm puzzled by that because I thought it was handed over to LU at BR
privatisation, like East Putney to Wimbledon Park definitely were.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel May 10th 08 10:25 PM

Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
 
In article , (Mark
Robinson) wrote:

1506 wrote:

As an asside many US transit systmes ban eating and drinking, of any
sort, on board buses and trains. LA Metro comes to mind.


In the UK, Metrolink bans all food and drink (maybe other tram systems
too?) I was once allowed to *carry* a takeaway on a Metrolink tram by
the TTIs, so long as I kept it wrapped up and wasn't tempted to eat
any of it. I was told in no uncertain terms that even this concession
was on a "Just this once" basis.


Nobody stopped me eating my Sunday sandwich lunch on a tram from Eccles,
I'm sure.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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