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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?
Was the line previously British Rail?

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"CJG" wrote in message
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?
Was the line previously British Rail?

yes, can't remember when it changed though

tim


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"CJG" wrote in message
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East
trains? Was the line previously British Rail?

yes, can't remember when it changed though

Wasn't it 1993 or 1994?

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"tim" wrote in message
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"CJG" wrote in message
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?
Was the line previously British Rail?

yes, can't remember when it changed though

1st April, 1994(?)

Appropriate date methinks!

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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:23:02 +0100, CJG
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?
Was the line previously British Rail?

Considering the obsessive levels of your complains about the London
Underground, you lack of even the most basic knowledge of it is quite
astounding.....
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In message , Nick Cooper
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Considering the obsessive levels of your complains about the London
Underground, you lack of even the most basic knowledge of it is quite
astounding.....

Im sure you complain about the rain without any reasonable
meteorological knowledge.
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?

Eh? They look like Central Line trains to me.
Old Network South East trains are big, blue and have slam doors!

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In message , John
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?

Eh? They look like Central Line trains to me.
Old Network South East trains are big, blue and have slam doors!

ISTR that they do (or did) have Network Southeast branding on the
trains, and the colour scheme is markedly different to the standard tube
corporate scheme.
The line used to belong to BR, and before that, the Southern, and the
original trains used to be in full NSE livery.
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"John" wrote in message
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?

Eh? They look like Central Line trains to me.
Old Network South East trains are big, blue and have slam doors!

But are they still carrying NSE livery?

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In message , Spyke
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The line used to belong to BR, and before that, the Southern, and the
original trains used to be in full NSE livery.

I thought the original ones were southern railway dark green.
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"Cast_Iron" wrote the following in:



"John" wrote in message
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East
trains?

Eh? They look like Central Line trains to me.
Old Network South East trains are big, blue and have slam doors!

But are they still carrying NSE livery?

Yes, they are, and you can still see the bit on the train where the
Network SouthEast name and logo have been removed.

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In article ,
Cast_Iron wrote:

"John" wrote in message
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Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?

Eh? They look like Central Line trains to me.
Old Network South East trains are big, blue and have slam doors!

But are they still carrying NSE livery?

They've got the old colour scheme, but the "network south-east" stickers
have been removed.

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In message , Robin May
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Yes, they are, and you can still see the bit on the train where the
Network SouthEast name and logo have been removed.

Not being an expert on such matters. But on the platform at Waterloo all
the way down every so often it looks like the three slanted stripes of
Network South East
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:34:45 +0100, CJG
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In message , Nick Cooper
writes
Considering the obsessive levels of your complains about the London
Underground, you lack of even the most basic knowledge of it is quite
astounding.....

Im sure you complain about the rain without any reasonable
meteorological knowledge.

I know that rain is water and it falls from clouds in the sky, a
comparable fact-base.
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In article , Robin May wrote:
"Cast_Iron" wrote the following in:


But are they still carrying NSE livery?

Yes, they are, and you can still see the bit on the train where the
Network SouthEast name and logo have been removed.

I actually saw a W&C Line train as recently as a couple of months ago
which hadn't in fact had the name and logo removed.

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In message , Nick Cooper
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I know that rain is water and it falls from clouds in the sky, a
comparable fact-base.

Yes, but who owned the clouds before the Met Office was privatised?
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:23:02 +0100, CJG
wrote:

Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?
Was the line previously British Rail?

They don't. They look like WAGN stock!

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"CJG" wrote in message
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In message , Robin May
writes
Yes, they are, and you can still see the bit on the train where the
Network SouthEast name and logo have been removed.

Not being an expert on such matters. But on the platform at Waterloo all
the way down every so often it looks like the three slanted stripes of
Network South East

That's where the door will be when the train stops and thus where you have
to stand to get on the train first, everybody then forms an orderly queue
behind you. (And unfortunately, yes I can remember when it was, exactly,
like that!)

Tim



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tim wrote:

That's where the door will be when the train stops and thus
where you have to stand to get on the train first,
everybody then forms an orderly queue behind you. (And
unfortunately, yes I can remember when it was, exactly,
like that!)

Given that platform edge doors also show passengers/customers (select
preferred description) where they must stand to board the train it seems tot
me that marking the tunnel wall or platform edge is a much more satisfactory
method.

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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , Nick Cooper
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I know that rain is water and it falls from clouds in the sky, a
comparable fact-base.

Yes, but who owned the clouds before the Met Office was privatised?
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The Met Office isn't privatised, its an Agency of the MOD!
Rob.

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Yes, they are, and you can still see the bit on the train where the
Network SouthEast name and logo have been removed.

Not being an expert on such matters. But on the platform at Waterloo all
the way down every so often it looks like the three slanted stripes of
Network South East

That's where the door will be when the train stops and thus where you have
to stand to get on the train first, everybody then forms an orderly queue
behind you. (And unfortunately, yes I can remember when it was, exactly,
like that!)

Look at the Current Issue of Entrain, it has a full articla about the drain
plus all the rolling stock
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In article , Roland Perry
writes
The line used to belong to BR, and before that, the Southern, and the
original trains used to be in full NSE livery.
I thought the original ones were southern railway dark green.

I would have thought the *original* ones (we're on the third set of
trains since the line opened) would have been in LSWR colours.

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In message , Joe Patrick
writes
Look at the Current Issue of Entrain, it has a full articla about the drain
plus all the rolling stock

What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I can recall seeing pictures of green carriages with "Southern" on them,
which I think were the second lot of stock.
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In message , Terry Harper
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What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I googled for "LSWR colour" and got this:

http://home.planet.nl/~mhodson/rail3d/lswr.html

(which incidentally says there are no records of the colour of the first
W&C trains - which seems unlikely).
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , Terry Harper
writes
What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both
of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I googled for "LSWR colour" and got this:

http://home.planet.nl/~mhodson/rail3d/lswr.html

(which incidentally says there are no records of the colour of the first
W&C trains - which seems unlikely).
--
Roland Perry

According to Southern Electric Multiple-Units 1898-1948 by Colin Marsden
published by Ian Allan, page 8;

"Coaches were of an all wood construction and painted in dark brown livery"

The book contains several interesting photos of the original stock and also
the replacement stock delivered in 1940. I imagine the book is long out of
print but copies might be knocking about in local libraries for any one
who's interested.

I hope this helps.

Russell

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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , Terry Harper
writes

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both
of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I googled for "LSWR colour" and got this:

http://home.planet.nl/~mhodson/rail3d/lswr.html

(which incidentally says there are no records of the colour of the first
W&C trains - which seems unlikely).

Interesting, especially the original LSWR electric stock and the W&C
original stock.

But did you notice the link to
http://website.lineone.net/~earlygen...r/colour1.html, which has some
indications of colours?

That seems to answer the question.
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There is at least one unit running around with NSE stickers still on it.
I don't know which one, but I tend to see it a lot.


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"Ken Wheatley" wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:23:02 +0100, CJG
wrote:

Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?
Was the line previously British Rail?

They don't. They look like WAGN stock!


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