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I gather the new service using the new line (dont know where it actually
starts or ends) will commence on 28th Sept.

Does anyone knoiw if ALL the Eurostar sevices will be using this from day or
will there only be a few trains using it to begin with?

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I gather the new service using the new line (dont know where it actually
starts or ends) will commence on 28th Sept.

Does anyone knoiw if ALL the Eurostar sevices will be using this from day or
will there only be a few trains using it to begin with?

Thanks


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I gather the new service using the new line (dont know where it actually
starts or ends) will commence on 28th Sept.

Does anyone knoiw if ALL the Eurostar sevices will be using this from day

or
will there only be a few trains using it to begin with?

Thanks


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From this month all services will use Section 1 (which connects at some
Junction) IIRC Fawkham Junction?? Which runs from there to the Channel
Tunnel, and from 2007 most services will operate from St Pancras. Services
will still operate from waterloo, but to a much lesser extent Than now.
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Joe Patrick wrote:


From this month all services will use Section 1 (which connects at some
Junction) IIRC Fawkham Junction?? Which runs from there to the Channel
Tunnel, and from 2007 most services will operate from St Pancras. Services
will still operate from waterloo, but to a much lesser extent Than now.
off to watch A Life of Grime...


Will that be timetabled trains still going to Waterloo or just one-off
occasions when there might be a problem between Fawkham and St Pancras?
It seems a bit strange that after they spend the billions of pounds on
the nice shiny new route and enlarging St Pancras they then carry on
using Waterloo.

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"Stevie" wrote in message
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Will that be timetabled trains still going to Waterloo or just one-off
occasions when there might be a problem between Fawkham and St Pancras?
It seems a bit strange that after they spend the billions of pounds on
the nice shiny new route and enlarging St Pancras they then carry on
using Waterloo.

The majority of services will use St Pancras but there will still be
regular, timetabled services into/out of Waterloo. Not everyone lives north
of the river!




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"Jack Taylor" wrote in message k...
The majority of services will use St Pancras but there will still be
regular, timetabled services into/out of Waterloo. Not everyone lives north
of the river!


Also, it's useful to keep driver knowledge of a diversionary route.

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Stevie wrote:
It seems a bit strange that after they spend the billions of pounds on
the nice shiny new route and enlarging St Pancras they then carry on
using Waterloo.


Mind you, it would seem strange after the millions of pounds building a
lovely international terminal at Waterloo not to use it



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Stuart wrote:
Stevie wrote:
It seems a bit strange that after they spend the billions of pounds on
the nice shiny new route and enlarging St Pancras they then carry on
using Waterloo.


Mind you, it would seem strange after the millions of pounds building a
lovely international terminal at Waterloo not to use it


Yeah and think of the fun we've all had at having French visitors to the UK
arriving in London at a station called Waterloo! St.Pancras just doesn't
have the same er....ring to it, does it? :-)

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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:42:56 +0100 Stuart wrote:
} Stevie wrote:
} It seems a bit strange that after they spend the billions of pounds on
} the nice shiny new route and enlarging St Pancras they then carry on
} using Waterloo.
}
} Mind you, it would seem strange after the millions of pounds building a
} lovely international terminal at Waterloo not to use it

When Waterloo International was built it was planned to be temporary.
ISTR that after the completion of the "real" international station the
platforms at Waterloo would be used for domestic services - they are at
the same level as the older platforms.

If international services persisted from Waterloo then presumably they
would have to retain the segregation for immigration control. That
seems an expensive option given both how much space could be put to
other purposes and the duplication with St Pancras.

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